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When a military unit operates out of civilian infrastructure, that infrastructure becomes a "clean" target, to use your terminology. That is well-established la

When a military unit operates out of civilian infrastructure, that infrastructure becomes a "clean" target, to use your terminology. That is well-established law of war, accepted by every nation on the planet.

Forgeties79 5y ago
Hard disagree, but it doesn't really matter ultimately. I think we just need to be careful sanitizing Russia's tactics.
JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> When a military unit operates out of civilian infrastructure, that infrastructure becomes a "clean" target We have zero evidence of the military operating out of civilian infrastructure that doesn't come from Russia. We have independent evidence of the Russian military targeting civilian infrastructure which had zero military presence. Hate to have to look at this kind of stuff, but a 61-day old account parroting Putin's propaganda points doesn't look credible per se.
- dmix 5y ago
  The mall attack that everyone was so shocked about turned out to be housing a Ukranian MLRS which was documented by a Russian drone (obviously there for multiple days given the amount of tire tracks matching the path it took). https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tje6ez/the_mod_of_the_russia_publishes_a_video_of_a/ https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tje6... I personally think - technically - that is a fair target in war / urban combat. But it's also incredibly dangerous and reckless to bomb such a huge building in a city. So there's basically no good rational here if the war itself is not justifiable.
- orangepurple 5y ago
  I have not been following this conflict closely at all, but the concept carries precedent: https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-rockets-found-second-united-nations-school-224830922.html https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-rockets-found-second-united-nat... In that instance (see link) "Israel bombs UN school in Gaza" doesn't sound very nice.

Forgeties79 5y ago

Hard disagree, but it doesn't really matter ultimately. I think we just need to be careful sanitizing Russia's tactics.

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> When a military unit operates out of civilian infrastructure, that infrastructure becomes a "clean" target We have zero evidence of the military operating out of civilian infrastructure that doesn't come from Russia. We have independent evidence of the Russian military targeting civilian infrastructure which had zero military presence. Hate to have to look at this kind of stuff, but a 61-day old account parroting Putin's propaganda points doesn't look credible per se.

dmix 5y ago
The mall attack that everyone was so shocked about turned out to be housing a Ukranian MLRS which was documented by a Russian drone (obviously there for multiple days given the amount of tire tracks matching the path it took). https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tje6ez/the_mod_of_the_russia_publishes_a_video_of_a/ https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/tje6... I personally think - technically - that is a fair target in war / urban combat. But it's also incredibly dangerous and reckless to bomb such a huge building in a city. So there's basically no good rational here if the war itself is not justifiable.
orangepurple 5y ago
I have not been following this conflict closely at all, but the concept carries precedent: https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-rockets-found-second-united-nations-school-224830922.html https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-rockets-found-second-united-nat... In that instance (see link) "Israel bombs UN school in Gaza" doesn't sound very nice.