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I am half Chinese and a martial artist (northern shaolin kung fu). I'm also a huge fan of philosophy as expressed via animation or science fiction. When I saw
by lchengify 5y ago
I am half Chinese and a martial artist (northern shaolin kung fu). I'm also a huge fan of philosophy as expressed via animation or science fiction.
When I saw Kung Fu Panda in the theater, I was impressed with how a mainstream American animated film captured the subtle aspects of my culture. KhoomeiK gets into the details below (I would add Buddhism to Daoism and Confucianism, but that's minor), but the general stoicism expressed by the characters (except Po) is the environment I knew as a child.
Of course Mulan had come out before this, but Mulan was more focused on the narrative and themes around the protagonist. KFP has an ensemble cast beginning-to-end, which allowed for a broader exploration of the philosophy. Each time two characters interact, you get some additional debate that paints a broader picture, leading to the amazing quotes in this article.
At the time, there were even articles about how surprisingly successful it was in China despite being made in the US about Chinese philosophy [1]. You could argue this kicked off what has now become a much larger Chinese film industry.
I'll add from a strictly technical standpoint, the subtle animations for the martial arts are superbly correct. The different animals (Tiger, Crane, etc) are explicit Kung Fu styles. The stances, forms, weapons and training they show are really exact. There's a scene where Shifu corrects young Tai Lung's stance with a stick. The stance is real down to the feet placement in the animation (bow and arrow stance), and in traditional training they do correct you with sticks.
I'll end with one last anecdote: In KFP 2, there's a scene where Tigress says she learned punching "hard style" by hitting an ironwood tree for 20 years. It's written as a joke, but I actually had a Kung Fu instructor who trained that way in real life. Now you train on progressively harder surfaces for punching over a period of 7 years or more, but when he started in the 80's you apparently did it on trees.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/11/AR2008071103281_pf.html?utm_source=reddit.com https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/0...
- abhorrence 5y ago> Of course Mulan had come out before this (same year but March vs June) For anyone who was panicking over the passage of time when reading this: Kung Fu Panda was released in 2008, Mulan came out in 1998.
- lchengify 5y agoWoops! Corrected.
- joering2 5y agoas someone with both Chinese parents and also m.a. (Chow Gar school), I felt disrespected when Po plays with Ninja stars. I cannot understand why movie that attempts to reflect as much Chinese culture as possible (excluding decorating everything with Dragons, which is a secret Chinese symbol and not used for decorations - even in the biggest Chinese movies you won't find too many Dragons) added this insult.
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- krapp 5y ago> I cannot understand why movie that attempts to reflect as much Chinese culture as possible (excluding decorating everything with Dragons, which is a secret Chinese symbol and not used for decorations - even in the biggest Chinese movies you won't find too many Dragons) added this insult. Kung Fu Panda is a movie made by Westerners, for Westerners, about the cultural zeitgeist of Asian martial arts films and their common tropes as interpreted by Westerners, for whom the distinction between Japanese and Chinese martial disciplines isn't really relevant. Dreamworks didn't add "ninja stars" as a sly insult to Chinese culture, they added "ninja stars" because "ninja stars" are a common element in the films being parodied. I mean, it isn't a documentary about Chinese history, it's a comedy with talking cartoon animals. Get over yourself, sheesh.