>does not say anything about those same people's desire to continue doing so Well, I'm not sure about that. I feel that we are all responsible for our governme

>does not say anything about those same people's desire to continue doing so Well, I'm not sure about that. I feel that we are all responsible for our government to some degree. If the gov is really doing evil things without accountability, then it is the people's responsibility to change it. The problem is that it is very easy to move from democracy to dictatorship, and very hard to move from dictatorship to democracy, with the latter transition almost always requiring the use of force. Its a big, gigantic step. It's starts when Russian mothers and fathers, Russian neighbors and shopkeepers, start whispering about really taking up arms against Putin. This is a very problematic line to cross, mainly because people are stupid and will trigger 'a revolution' about anything and everything. The information landscape is treacherous for false positives, now more than ever. Consider the example of the pitiable 1/6 insurrectionists. Every one of them thought they were defending their country against a threat. But they were all badly wrong, and now they suffer for it. But the instinct to put their lives on the line for their constitution is, in my old-fashioned belief system, admirable. They just got tricked into fighting for the wrong side.