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I don't mean to pick on you but this is a common platitude and fallacy: > I think it's increasingly hard to live without a phone or without a smartphone. Ma
by nonrandomstring 5y ago
I don't mean to pick on you but this is a common platitude and
fallacy:
> I think it's increasingly hard to live without a phone or without a
smartphone.
Maybe for you, for the set of choices you have made in life. When I
see this sentiment I smile a little because I have a Nokia dumb phone
that I use only a few times per week. The less I use my phone the
easier life becomes, quite literally.
To address the examples you give; In my town there are amazing
restaurants all along the beach where we pay cash, know the waiters by
name, you can still go out safely and date people you meet, and we
have record shops that sell vinyl and CDs. Sometimes I like to go for
days without a mobile phone at all. (And in case you're wondering, my
life is filled with many heavy responsibilities that I manage in other
ways)
With the greatest respect, I see a fair few HN comments that speak to
parochial lifestyles, with sweeping statements like:
Everybody does this
Nobody does that now
What people want is this
<thing> is inevitable
<other thing> is ubiquitous now
Sweeping statements generalised from limited personal experience and
quite narrow horizons make me think "That's will make these people
consumers not innovators. They accept what they are given".
> But maybe this is just the march of technology.
It's not the "march" Armies and ants march. It's the "flowering" or
diversification of technology. Some people are using technology in
different ways than others. Which is what we'd hope for and expect
from a liberal democracy, right? If we wanted everybody to do the
same, think the same, and buy the same, we'd vote for communism
surely?
Or are some digital technologies ushering in a form of communism on
the sly?
- Gunax 5y agoNo, I don't think youre picking on me at all. It's definitely possible to go without those things. No one needs to use Uber or Tinder. But I guess it feels like you're just not interested or need those. Going without rideshare is definitely possible, but it's another option one is giving up by foregoing a phone.
- nonrandomstring 5y agoIt could be age and lifestyle differences - I'm a 50+ father, big town (small city) from England, I have an image of you in mind as a somewhat younger city dweller Gunax. But regardless such differences, I've a theory that what social media has done online, causing polarisation or rather partition into silos, smartphones (and the app service culture of some businesses) are doing to us in reality. After making a conscious effort to rid myself of smartphones (or rather not get sucked into dependency) 10 years ago, the rest fell into place. What I mean is, cause and effect wise, to some extent things like my choice of restaurants to the company I keep, and working habits, might just be determined by my horizons as a non-user. Similarly perhaps for you, the world you see is determined by the lens (a 6 inch square) you look through, and the more you stay there the more it feels like "life would be harder without a phone". Factoring out any value judgements, in this way technology is polarising society. respects