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I'd like to add that Kung Fu Panda actually illustrates a genuine philosophical conflict between Daoism and Confucianism, which played out across early China du
by KhoomeiK 5y ago
I'd like to add that Kung Fu Panda actually illustrates a genuine philosophical conflict between Daoism and Confucianism, which played out across early China during the Spring and Autumn period.
Oogway represents Daoism with its search for inner peace and going with the flow/dao. Shifu, on the other hand, represents Confucianism with its concerns for moral duty and worldly social harmony. The internal and external, immaterial and material—each has a role in the construction of a philosophy conducive to success.
"Oogway explains that he can not make the peach tree blossom or bear fruit before it is ready. Shifu retorts that there are things that can be controlled like when the fruit falls or where the seeds are planted. Oogway finalizes by saying that no matter what is done, the tree will still grow to be a peach tree, instead of any other kind of tree and that great things can happen if it is helped and nurtured. Oogway argues the point of Daoism and that nature will take its course. Shifu argues the point of Confucianism and that everything has order." [1]
Also shameless plug for my essay about Culture, Philosophy, and Reinforcement Learning which comments on similar dualities and their relations. [2]
[1] https://medium.com/@gvreligion/quit-dont-quit-noodles-don-t-noodles-daoism-and-kung-fu-panda-404434bb22e5 https://medium.com/@gvreligion/quit-dont-quit-noodles-don-t-...
[2] https://medium.com/@rohan.pandey/culture-philosophy-and-reinforcement-learning-6032e9796f14 https://medium.com/@rohan.pandey/culture-philosophy-and-rein...
- galaxyLogic 5y agoGood points about Dao vs Confucius. In our times the debate seems to be between autocracy vs. democracy.
- throwaway2n32 5y agoIs this some how related to propaganda against CCP.
- UweSchmidt 5y ago"The Kung Fu Panda movies focus on moving away from the tradition of Confucianism and moving towards the Daoism ideas of doing what feels natural." I haven't watched the movies, but it seems Panda-Daoism happens to conform to Hollywood's western individualist thought and therefore predictably "wins". I'd love to watch or read something that lets the Confucianist be the deeper truth, for a change. Do you happen to know of anything? I suspect there are is quite a bit of wisdom in there worth exploring, and wouldn't mind to be confronted with a stronger dose of "different" once in a while.
- DocTomoe 5y agoI think you'll have to search long to even find a Chinese who thinks that Confucianism is in any way more "true" or a "deeper truth" than Daoism (or any other of the Tang-Dynasty-era philosophies like Legalism or Mozi). The philosophies are not in opposition, they look at different aspects of life.