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But who can host a website? I would be wary of hosting something that isn’t a 100% static site, out of fear of the amount of attention maintenance would take.

But who can host a website? I would be wary of hosting something that isn’t a 100% static site, out of fear of the amount of attention maintenance would take. Also, quite a few of the non-profits behind the projects you mentioned have multi-million dollar budgets that they can use to administer their git instance, if needed. I don’t think “if they can do it, you can” is a strong argument for those.

rvz 5y ago
I don't recall ReactOS, or the creators of wireguard having 'multi million dollar budgets'. How is it that even projects like RedoxOS [0] are able to self-host on a GitLab instance using a subdomain, without giant budgets in the millions? You don't need a 'multi-million dollar budget' to self-host a git repo and may of these open-source projects have been doing so even before GitHub existed for years. Even if they did have such a budget, there isn't an excuse left to self-host and avoid going 'all in' on GitHub. At the very least I would expect something like what ReactOS is doing by having a self-hosted backup just in case GitHub goes down or vice-versa. [1] Looks like that is proving to be useful. [0] https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os [1] https://github.com/reactos/reactos#code-mirrors https://github.com/reactos/reactos#code-mirrors
- Someone 5y ago
  > You don't need a 'multi-million dollar budget' to self-host a git repo I never made that claim. The argument was “if X can do it, so can you”. I pointed out that _some_of_these_ (Mozilla, likely the most extreme of them, had over $400 million in revenues in 2020), are quite different from the typical ‘you’, invalidating that argument. As always, invalidating an argument doesn’t mean its conclusion is wrong.
  - rvz 5y ago
    > The argument was “if X can do it, so can you”. So when are you going to question this user [0] and others here planning to do the same thing for not having a 'multi-million dollar budget' for self-hosting their own services then? Since clearly according to you they 'can't do it', despite me saying 'if X can do it so can someone else'. Where 'X' can be even a toy project like RedoxOS, or a messenger project like GNU Ring hosted by themselves and accessed via a subdomain. Seems like they and other lesser known and funded open-source projects are doing just fine like that for years. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30780874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30780874
rglullis 5y ago
My last bill from Hetzner was ~35€. I host gitea, drone CI, hashicorp vault and my own docker registry/pypi repository. I can add as many users as I want, and I had exactly zero incidents in the past ~6 years since I set this up. I don't even worry about a strong backup strategy (besides just making occasional snapshots of the data volumes) because this was all set up with IaC tools (Terraform, Ansible) and I have copies of all the code in local repositories.

rvz 5y ago

I don't recall ReactOS, or the creators of wireguard having 'multi million dollar budgets'. How is it that even projects like RedoxOS [0] are able to self-host on a GitLab instance using a subdomain, without giant budgets in the millions? You don't need a 'multi-million dollar budget' to self-host a git repo and may of these open-source projects have been doing so even before GitHub existed for years. Even if they did have such a budget, there isn't an excuse left to self-host and avoid going 'all in' on GitHub. At the very least I would expect something like what ReactOS is doing by having a self-hosted backup just in case GitHub goes down or vice-versa. [1] Looks like that is proving to be useful. [0] https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os [1] https://github.com/reactos/reactos#code-mirrors https://github.com/reactos/reactos#code-mirrors

Someone 5y ago
> You don't need a 'multi-million dollar budget' to self-host a git repo I never made that claim. The argument was “if X can do it, so can you”. I pointed out that _some_of_these_ (Mozilla, likely the most extreme of them, had over $400 million in revenues in 2020), are quite different from the typical ‘you’, invalidating that argument. As always, invalidating an argument doesn’t mean its conclusion is wrong.
- rvz 5y ago
  > The argument was “if X can do it, so can you”. So when are you going to question this user [0] and others here planning to do the same thing for not having a 'multi-million dollar budget' for self-hosting their own services then? Since clearly according to you they 'can't do it', despite me saying 'if X can do it so can someone else'. Where 'X' can be even a toy project like RedoxOS, or a messenger project like GNU Ring hosted by themselves and accessed via a subdomain. Seems like they and other lesser known and funded open-source projects are doing just fine like that for years. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30780874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30780874

rglullis 5y ago

My last bill from Hetzner was ~35€. I host gitea, drone CI, hashicorp vault and my own docker registry/pypi repository. I can add as many users as I want, and I had exactly zero incidents in the past ~6 years since I set this up. I don't even worry about a strong backup strategy (besides just making occasional snapshots of the data volumes) because this was all set up with IaC tools (Terraform, Ansible) and I have copies of all the code in local repositories.