> Also, dissing Chinese-made MP3 players Fair point, but I was using it as a short-hand for saying "cheaply-made Chinese junk" -- the kind of fly-by-night comp

> Also, dissing Chinese-made MP3 players Fair point, but I was using it as a short-hand for saying "cheaply-made Chinese junk" -- the kind of fly-by-night companies that anyone who has tried to buy stuff on Amazon in the past few years is now familiar with. Of course quality stuff is also made in China, and I was not referring to that.