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I don’t know where these people are working. Here in the south where the cost of living is SUPER low, Hardee’s will pay you 16$ an hour to start. Waffle House w

I don’t know where these people are working. Here in the south where the cost of living is SUPER low, Hardee’s will pay you 16$ an hour to start. Waffle House will give you 18. Panera Bread $20. I don’t think this data has caught up with wage increases after the labor shortage.

fundad 5y ago
Those are posted signs but do you know anyone who was offered that. They could just post that to look like they’re not avoiding hiring.
- puffoflogic 5y ago
  Stop listening to BlueAnon.
- gruez 5y ago
  >Those are posted signs but do you know anyone who was offered that. Well this is HN, so I'd hazard to guess that most people don't know many people who take those jobs. >They could just post that to look like they’re not avoiding hiring. Seems like a conspiracy theory to me unless there's some sort of evidence that they're ignoring applications.
- unmole 5y ago
  > They could just post that to look like they’re not avoiding hiring. And achieve what, exactly?
  - fundad 5y ago
    Profit. They need to recoup Covid losses with higher prices and smaller staff.
    - unmole 5y ago
      What you're saying is: 1. Pretend like you're hiring staff 2. ??? 3. Profit What is happening in step 2 that is leading to step 3? And more importantly, why does step 2 need step 1?
      - fundad 5y ago
        “higher prices and smaller staff“
        unmole 5y ago
        Again, why do they need to pretend to hire people? They can just keep the smaller staff.
        fundad 5y ago
        I didn't say it was some evil strategy but those signs aren't just for potential candidates, they know customers see them too. I think the appearance that the service industry is working harder at hiring than they are is an effort to justify higher prices to customers. Remember demand has kept up despite higher prices and in many cases reduction to quality of service. Doing the same thing is the natural state for a business operator, even if they want to hire they may not have time to interview. There is no benefit to taking signs down in that case when every other restaurant has them up.
- dv_dt 5y ago
  There is also the question of if a full time schedule is available at some hourly wage, or if they expect to pay part time, with on call availability.
bsagdiyev 5y ago
I saw a sign for Papa Johns the other day offering a $1000 signing bonus. Of course they don't specify anything else, so who knows how it's paid out. My girlfriend was offered something similar as a teacher but the bonus was paid over 12 months so came out to something equivalent to $80/mo -- not really helpful.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 5y ago
  $1000 dollar signing bonus might be the most money they have had all at one time in one place. $80 a month could be a full tank of gas. Just pointing out it can be a big bonus relatively.
  - netizen-936824 5y ago
    Ah yes, let's throw them pennies so they may afford transportation to slave for minimum wage that they can barely survive on in the first place.
    - listless 5y ago
      The point though is well made. A 1000 signing bonus is a HUGE improvement over no signing bonus and a wage that you can barely feed one person on. Remember - these jobs require no skill or prior experience.
      - netizen-936824 5y ago
        I don't think that every single human should be required to be heavily specialized just to earn a livable wage, that's ridiculous
yahn00 5y ago
- parkingrift 5y ago
  I'm sorry, but what an absurd comment.
  - tetsusaiga 5y ago
    my favorite part is "swamp climate"
    - yahn00 5y ago
      It’s not made without personal experience But of course the only experience out there is yours, so others comments are open to mockery and sarcasm Relativity means you can’t really speak truth for anyone else, which I accept is true for me too I speak from personal experience. How you feel about that speech means as much to me as my comments do to you
  - yahn00 5y ago
    No more absurd than the working conditions of the majority in the US Sorry reality sometimes intrudes on your cognitive clean room
    - parkingrift 5y ago
      Bad troll is bad.
      - yahn00 5y ago
        Anon is unimportant altogether

fundad 5y ago

Those are posted signs but do you know anyone who was offered that. They could just post that to look like they’re not avoiding hiring.

puffoflogic 5y ago
Stop listening to BlueAnon.
gruez 5y ago
>Those are posted signs but do you know anyone who was offered that. Well this is HN, so I'd hazard to guess that most people don't know many people who take those jobs. >They could just post that to look like they’re not avoiding hiring. Seems like a conspiracy theory to me unless there's some sort of evidence that they're ignoring applications.
unmole 5y ago
> They could just post that to look like they’re not avoiding hiring. And achieve what, exactly?
- fundad 5y ago
  Profit. They need to recoup Covid losses with higher prices and smaller staff.
  - unmole 5y ago
    What you're saying is: 1. Pretend like you're hiring staff 2. ??? 3. Profit What is happening in step 2 that is leading to step 3? And more importantly, why does step 2 need step 1?
    - fundad 5y ago
      “higher prices and smaller staff“
      - unmole 5y ago
        Again, why do they need to pretend to hire people? They can just keep the smaller staff.
        fundad 5y ago
        I didn't say it was some evil strategy but those signs aren't just for potential candidates, they know customers see them too. I think the appearance that the service industry is working harder at hiring than they are is an effort to justify higher prices to customers. Remember demand has kept up despite higher prices and in many cases reduction to quality of service. Doing the same thing is the natural state for a business operator, even if they want to hire they may not have time to interview. There is no benefit to taking signs down in that case when every other restaurant has them up.
dv_dt 5y ago
There is also the question of if a full time schedule is available at some hourly wage, or if they expect to pay part time, with on call availability.

bsagdiyev 5y ago

I saw a sign for Papa Johns the other day offering a $1000 signing bonus. Of course they don't specify anything else, so who knows how it's paid out. My girlfriend was offered something similar as a teacher but the bonus was paid over 12 months so came out to something equivalent to $80/mo -- not really helpful.

bitxbitxbitcoin 5y ago
$1000 dollar signing bonus might be the most money they have had all at one time in one place. $80 a month could be a full tank of gas. Just pointing out it can be a big bonus relatively.
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  Ah yes, let's throw them pennies so they may afford transportation to slave for minimum wage that they can barely survive on in the first place.
  - listless 5y ago
    The point though is well made. A 1000 signing bonus is a HUGE improvement over no signing bonus and a wage that you can barely feed one person on. Remember - these jobs require no skill or prior experience.
    - netizen-936824 5y ago
      I don't think that every single human should be required to be heavily specialized just to earn a livable wage, that's ridiculous

yahn00 5y ago

parkingrift 5y ago
I'm sorry, but what an absurd comment.
- tetsusaiga 5y ago
  my favorite part is "swamp climate"
  - yahn00 5y ago
    It’s not made without personal experience But of course the only experience out there is yours, so others comments are open to mockery and sarcasm Relativity means you can’t really speak truth for anyone else, which I accept is true for me too I speak from personal experience. How you feel about that speech means as much to me as my comments do to you
- yahn00 5y ago
  No more absurd than the working conditions of the majority in the US Sorry reality sometimes intrudes on your cognitive clean room
  - parkingrift 5y ago
    Bad troll is bad.
    - yahn00 5y ago
      Anon is unimportant altogether