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That’s exactly what it’s made for :) You can finally go outside and work on your laptop in the bright sunlight without squinting! You probably don't do thi

by alin23 5y ago

That’s exactly what it’s made for :) You can finally go outside and work on your laptop in the bright sunlight without squinting! You probably don't do this often, but it's nice to have, right? https://lunar.fyi/#xdr https://lunar.fyi/#xdr

skerit 5y ago
> You can finally go outside and work on your laptop in the bright sunlight without squinting! You probably don't do this often, but it's nice to have, right Dear god, is this what laptop makers think too? I want a laptop to use in the sun outside. I actively look for a laptop that does that, but they're either super expensive and/or super ugly.
- alin23 5y ago
  Well it’s definitely not the advertised use case. The promo videos are mostly made with studio rooms in mind. I’ve yet to see a laptop advertisement where someone is working outside in sunlight.
  - ricardobeat 5y ago
    The OLPC had a reflective screen designed for outdoors use.
- argsnd 5y ago
  The ambient light sensor on MacBooks will raise the limit past 500 nits when it detects bright sunlight.
  - alin23 5y ago
    I've encountered exactly the opposite: https://alinpanaitiu.com/blog/over-500nits-failed/#sdr-cap-in-direct-sunlight https://alinpanaitiu.com/blog/over-500nits-failed/#sdr-cap-i... The SDR nits never go over 500 in my experience. But it's possible I haven't tested this correctly.
    - argsnd 5y ago
      My bad - I noticed that the screen becomes brighter than it is possible to manually set it to when it's in harsh sunlight, so I assumed that this was a result of it increasing the SDR brightness limit past 500 nits, I didn't know that such conditions were required merely to push it to 500 nits. Thanks for the info!
captainmuon 5y ago
Is it bad for your eyes? How does looking at an extra bright screen compare to looking at white paper in sunlight? I can imagine it is no problem to eyes adapted to the sun, but maybe there is a difference between emitted light and reflected light? And do you think it is safe to the screen? I heard that the screen will throttle itself at low-level when overheating anyway. (Edit: saw you answered it somewhere else in the thread!) Really excited to do a bit of coding in the garden now, but I'm worried for my eyes and my new MBP :-D
- alin23 5y ago
  In terms of the amount of light going into your eyes, my intuition says that you’re getting more nits from a white sheet of paper than from a dark screen with white text (in direct sunlight) But staring into that light for a long time will tire your eyes no matter if it’s reflected or projected.

by alin23 5y ago

skerit 5y ago

> You can finally go outside and work on your laptop in the bright sunlight without squinting! You probably don't do this often, but it's nice to have, right Dear god, is this what laptop makers think too? I want a laptop to use in the sun outside. I actively look for a laptop that does that, but they're either super expensive and/or super ugly.

alin23 5y ago
Well it’s definitely not the advertised use case. The promo videos are mostly made with studio rooms in mind. I’ve yet to see a laptop advertisement where someone is working outside in sunlight.
- ricardobeat 5y ago
  The OLPC had a reflective screen designed for outdoors use.
argsnd 5y ago
The ambient light sensor on MacBooks will raise the limit past 500 nits when it detects bright sunlight.
- alin23 5y ago
  I've encountered exactly the opposite: https://alinpanaitiu.com/blog/over-500nits-failed/#sdr-cap-in-direct-sunlight https://alinpanaitiu.com/blog/over-500nits-failed/#sdr-cap-i... The SDR nits never go over 500 in my experience. But it's possible I haven't tested this correctly.
  - argsnd 5y ago
    My bad - I noticed that the screen becomes brighter than it is possible to manually set it to when it's in harsh sunlight, so I assumed that this was a result of it increasing the SDR brightness limit past 500 nits, I didn't know that such conditions were required merely to push it to 500 nits. Thanks for the info!

captainmuon 5y ago

Is it bad for your eyes? How does looking at an extra bright screen compare to looking at white paper in sunlight? I can imagine it is no problem to eyes adapted to the sun, but maybe there is a difference between emitted light and reflected light? And do you think it is safe to the screen? I heard that the screen will throttle itself at low-level when overheating anyway. (Edit: saw you answered it somewhere else in the thread!) Really excited to do a bit of coding in the garden now, but I'm worried for my eyes and my new MBP :-D

alin23 5y ago
In terms of the amount of light going into your eyes, my intuition says that you’re getting more nits from a white sheet of paper than from a dark screen with white text (in direct sunlight) But staring into that light for a long time will tire your eyes no matter if it’s reflected or projected.