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F-Droid Is Unreachable

104 points by i13e 5y ago

leni536 5y ago
Their repo seems to be up though, I just installed an app a second ago.
- cdesai 5y ago
  That makes sense, the apps are downloaded from mirrors and it automatically falls back to another if one isn't reachable
2000UltraDeluxe 5y ago
Hosted at Hetzner, who are currently doing some maintenance work: https://status.hetzner.com/ https://status.hetzner.com/ No issues expected, but it could be some unexpected but related issue I guess.
- davidkuennen 5y ago
  Without blaming Hetzner in any way for this, this is the reason why we pay the GCP premium. We hosted at various providers in the past and there have always been problems. At one time it was because the A/Cs weren't working. And that was a big provider. At GCP we never had any problems with any outage so far. Even with VMs or the hosted features such as Cloud SQL. Whenever there is a maintenance, the systems keep working seamlessly (they migrate the systems somewhere else whenever they do maintenance work or something). We never felt the need to create high availability services, because it was never necessary so far (the services have always been available). And we've been hosting there for years.
  - rythmshifter03 5y ago
    no offense intended but this sounds largely like luck based on my personal experience with cloud providers.
    - davidkuennen 5y ago
      No offense taken. :-) It's just our own observation and not backed by any study or such. Could also be because we're lucky hosting in the Frankfurt data center. I think the popular us east one has more issues generally.
  - onphonenow 5y ago
    I had same experience especially with the "unlimited" offerings. Poor network quality or other issues. GCP / AWS I've had amazing luck, (not in US-east or similar). I backup but don't do high availability anymore.
  - notreallyserio 5y ago
    There was the global load balancer outage in November that took many services offline -- ironically the services that make use of a global load balancer for higher availability. But besides that GCP has been reliable as a whole.
wildmanx 5y ago
A post hosted on a website that's unreachable saying that it's unreachable. Just my humor. Love it!
- sixhobbits 5y ago
  I don't think there's a post - it's just a link to the main domain which is not currently reachable to demonstrate the information in the title.
  - andyjohnson0 5y ago
    Thats the way I interpreted it too. Probably should have a Tell HN prefix.
- agilob 5y ago
  Link in post is https://f-droid.org/ https://f-droid.org/ which isn't a blog, but main page
danuker 5y ago
Quick, everyone, try it out! Pile onto the already overwhelmed server.
- cybrox 5y ago
  The IT equivalent to "I've cut it three times and it's still too short."
  - mrjin 5y ago
    Lol.
- smcl 5y ago
  Yeah I'm a bit puzzled by the intentions behind sharing the link of a site that's down. There are two outcomes behind clicking it: 1. it's down, just like the title of the HN submission says 2. it's up, ok I guess they fixed it? Neither are particularly interesting or useful. If there's something nefarious behind it - someone DDOSing the site or it being taken down by court order or something - then a story on that would be worth submitting.
  - egberts1 5y ago
    Or it could be a wake-damage-control if there were any incident(s) that were to have occurred.
  - matrix12 5y ago
    It's a form of Shadenfreude among maintainers of sites.
- willcipriano 5y ago
  If this was set up with the standard techniques of the past decade or so, it's not a capacity problem it's a configuration problem or something like a data center on fire. Posting it here won't impact resolving the issue.
cdesai 5y ago
Status page: https://fdroid.checklyhq.com/ https://fdroid.checklyhq.com/ Cloudflare mirror(s) are sort of up * https://pages.fdroidgoes.live/ https://pages.fdroidgoes.live/ should be responsive * https://cloudflare.f-droid.org/ https://cloudflare.f-droid.org/ shows a wayback machine snapshot if it doesn't load. More details about mirror setup: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/229 https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/229 Disclaimer: I'm an F-Droid contributor
- iruoy 5y ago
  http://fastly.fdroidgoes.live http://fastly.fdroidgoes.live seems to work better than both Cloudflare links. This is from the same GitLab issue.
endisneigh 5y ago
Would this main page being unreachable also mean you can't download anything from the repo?
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
Why is this news? It's a status update, there's websites that can give you alerts for that if it's important.
- alias_neo 5y ago
  You may have missed the memo. Hacker News IS the internet's status page. Jokes aside, I genuinely hit HN first when a site appears to be down.
  - Ftuuky 5y ago
    Hackernews was my status page so many times before that by now it's a more reliable alert system than most status pages going around.
    - alias_neo 5y ago
      It is because unfortunately, it seems many organisations have a conflict of interest in their status pages, updating them affects their SLA uptime, so they'll try and get away with it.
      - silon42 5y ago
        Failure to update status page should could double against SLA.
        aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
        In SLA court!
richardfey 5y ago
Nothing on their official twitter: https://twitter.com/fdroidorg https://twitter.com/fdroidorg But I don't think there's anything to worry about, it looks like a temporary downtime.
- TobTobXX 5y ago
  They dropped a message on their Mastodon (@fdroidorg@mastodon.technology): https://mastodon.technology/@fdroidorg/108006322149899761 https://mastodon.technology/@fdroidorg/108006322149899761
piccogabriele 5y ago
https://staging.f-droid.org/ https://staging.f-droid.org/ works
psydvl 5y ago
Seems up now
Terry_Roll 5y ago
Works for me, but it is a bit slow loading. Is this a hackernews website hug, thats making it slow to load?
throwra620 5y ago
rg111 5y ago
@dang F-Droid Was Unreachable.

104 points by i13e 5y ago

leni536 5y ago

Their repo seems to be up though, I just installed an app a second ago.

cdesai 5y ago
That makes sense, the apps are downloaded from mirrors and it automatically falls back to another if one isn't reachable

2000UltraDeluxe 5y ago

Hosted at Hetzner, who are currently doing some maintenance work: https://status.hetzner.com/ https://status.hetzner.com/ No issues expected, but it could be some unexpected but related issue I guess.

davidkuennen 5y ago
Without blaming Hetzner in any way for this, this is the reason why we pay the GCP premium. We hosted at various providers in the past and there have always been problems. At one time it was because the A/Cs weren't working. And that was a big provider. At GCP we never had any problems with any outage so far. Even with VMs or the hosted features such as Cloud SQL. Whenever there is a maintenance, the systems keep working seamlessly (they migrate the systems somewhere else whenever they do maintenance work or something). We never felt the need to create high availability services, because it was never necessary so far (the services have always been available). And we've been hosting there for years.
- rythmshifter03 5y ago
  no offense intended but this sounds largely like luck based on my personal experience with cloud providers.
  - davidkuennen 5y ago
    No offense taken. :-) It's just our own observation and not backed by any study or such. Could also be because we're lucky hosting in the Frankfurt data center. I think the popular us east one has more issues generally.
- onphonenow 5y ago
  I had same experience especially with the "unlimited" offerings. Poor network quality or other issues. GCP / AWS I've had amazing luck, (not in US-east or similar). I backup but don't do high availability anymore.
- notreallyserio 5y ago
  There was the global load balancer outage in November that took many services offline -- ironically the services that make use of a global load balancer for higher availability. But besides that GCP has been reliable as a whole.

wildmanx 5y ago

A post hosted on a website that's unreachable saying that it's unreachable. Just my humor. Love it!

sixhobbits 5y ago
I don't think there's a post - it's just a link to the main domain which is not currently reachable to demonstrate the information in the title.
- andyjohnson0 5y ago
  Thats the way I interpreted it too. Probably should have a Tell HN prefix.
agilob 5y ago
Link in post is https://f-droid.org/ https://f-droid.org/ which isn't a blog, but main page

danuker 5y ago

Quick, everyone, try it out! Pile onto the already overwhelmed server.

cybrox 5y ago
The IT equivalent to "I've cut it three times and it's still too short."
- mrjin 5y ago
  Lol.
smcl 5y ago
Yeah I'm a bit puzzled by the intentions behind sharing the link of a site that's down. There are two outcomes behind clicking it: 1. it's down, just like the title of the HN submission says 2. it's up, ok I guess they fixed it? Neither are particularly interesting or useful. If there's something nefarious behind it - someone DDOSing the site or it being taken down by court order or something - then a story on that would be worth submitting.
- egberts1 5y ago
  Or it could be a wake-damage-control if there were any incident(s) that were to have occurred.
- matrix12 5y ago
  It's a form of Shadenfreude among maintainers of sites.
willcipriano 5y ago
If this was set up with the standard techniques of the past decade or so, it's not a capacity problem it's a configuration problem or something like a data center on fire. Posting it here won't impact resolving the issue.

cdesai 5y ago

Status page: https://fdroid.checklyhq.com/ https://fdroid.checklyhq.com/ Cloudflare mirror(s) are sort of up * https://pages.fdroidgoes.live/ https://pages.fdroidgoes.live/ should be responsive * https://cloudflare.f-droid.org/ https://cloudflare.f-droid.org/ shows a wayback machine snapshot if it doesn't load. More details about mirror setup: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/229 https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/229 Disclaimer: I'm an F-Droid contributor

iruoy 5y ago
http://fastly.fdroidgoes.live http://fastly.fdroidgoes.live seems to work better than both Cloudflare links. This is from the same GitLab issue.

endisneigh 5y ago

Would this main page being unreachable also mean you can't download anything from the repo?

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

Why is this news? It's a status update, there's websites that can give you alerts for that if it's important.

alias_neo 5y ago
You may have missed the memo. Hacker News IS the internet's status page. Jokes aside, I genuinely hit HN first when a site appears to be down.
- Ftuuky 5y ago
  Hackernews was my status page so many times before that by now it's a more reliable alert system than most status pages going around.
  - alias_neo 5y ago
    It is because unfortunately, it seems many organisations have a conflict of interest in their status pages, updating them affects their SLA uptime, so they'll try and get away with it.
    - silon42 5y ago
      Failure to update status page should could double against SLA.
      - aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
        In SLA court!

richardfey 5y ago

Nothing on their official twitter: https://twitter.com/fdroidorg https://twitter.com/fdroidorg But I don't think there's anything to worry about, it looks like a temporary downtime.

TobTobXX 5y ago
They dropped a message on their Mastodon (@fdroidorg@mastodon.technology): https://mastodon.technology/@fdroidorg/108006322149899761 https://mastodon.technology/@fdroidorg/108006322149899761

piccogabriele 5y ago

https://staging.f-droid.org/ https://staging.f-droid.org/ works

psydvl 5y ago

Seems up now

Terry_Roll 5y ago

Works for me, but it is a bit slow loading. Is this a hackernews website hug, thats making it slow to load?

throwra620 5y ago

rg111 5y ago

@dang F-Droid Was Unreachable.