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Switch does not forcefully upgrade on reboot, but you might be required to have at least firmware version x to run game y.

hnthrowaway0315 5y ago
I Googled a bit more and found the history of Nintendo v.s. fans is fascinating...
- imglorp 5y ago
  Fans? Sounds more like victims of Stockholm Syndrome.
  - eru 5y ago
    Many people like Nintendo's games.
    - pojzon 5y ago
      Many ppl like old Nintendo Games and Nintendo refuses to allow running those old games on switch thats when hacking comes in and makes it possible. Nintendo is just greedy.
      - prmoustache 5y ago
        On the other hand Nintendo never pried the NES, SNES, original gameboy and gameboy advances and N64 from its customers hands.
        dotancohen 5y ago
        In fact, that is exactly what Nintendo is doing and what the fine article is about. Bricking a device is an effective way of prying it from the customers' hands.
        prmoustache 5y ago
        Nintendo isn't bricking it. It prevents firmware from being downgraded. That is a bit different.
      - eru 5y ago
        Nintendo is a public company. They are sort of supposed to look out for the shareholder, you know? Many of their new games are still good. And, of course, there's plenty of competition in both hardware capable of running games and in games themselves, so it's not like Nintendo has a monopoly. (And it's pretty well known up-front to customers that Nintendo likes to keep a tight grip. So it's not like people don't know what's coming.)
- Moru 5y ago
  I caught on to their game after I bought the 16 bit console. Haven't touched nintendo since. They think they own the second hand market, you couldn't even buy a second hand game without nintendo wanting a cut of the sale. Every console is missing some feature that earlier had, and then they add that later and sell you the same console, just this time with an audio port! I forget all the details though, haven't really thought about nintendo or other consoles in many years.
  - goosedragons 5y ago
    What are you talking about? Where would Nintendo get the cut of a used game sale? Especially in the 16 bit era? Arguably Microsoft was closest to do this with the whole Xbox One debacle. Is there a feature that the Game Boy had that the Game Boy Color lacked? Nope. GBA did drop the infrared port that was barely used by GBC games but my PS3 also can't use my PS1 memory cards nor can an Xbox One use a 360 memory card or the HD-DVD drive. And Series X lacks Kinect or HDMI in support. Poorly used or outdated features often go away.
    - ascagnel_ 5y ago
      The Game Boy Advance SP removed the traditional TRS headphone jack and replaced it with a custom connector (which was later re-used for the DS's power port). An adapter to allow the use of standard TRS headphones was an optional extra purchase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance_SP#Headphone_jack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance_SP#Headphone_...

hnthrowaway0315 5y ago

I Googled a bit more and found the history of Nintendo v.s. fans is fascinating...

imglorp 5y ago
Fans? Sounds more like victims of Stockholm Syndrome.
- eru 5y ago
  Many people like Nintendo's games.
  - pojzon 5y ago
    Many ppl like old Nintendo Games and Nintendo refuses to allow running those old games on switch thats when hacking comes in and makes it possible. Nintendo is just greedy.
    - prmoustache 5y ago
      On the other hand Nintendo never pried the NES, SNES, original gameboy and gameboy advances and N64 from its customers hands.
      - dotancohen 5y ago
        In fact, that is exactly what Nintendo is doing and what the fine article is about. Bricking a device is an effective way of prying it from the customers' hands.
        prmoustache 5y ago
        Nintendo isn't bricking it. It prevents firmware from being downgraded. That is a bit different.
    - eru 5y ago
      Nintendo is a public company. They are sort of supposed to look out for the shareholder, you know? Many of their new games are still good. And, of course, there's plenty of competition in both hardware capable of running games and in games themselves, so it's not like Nintendo has a monopoly. (And it's pretty well known up-front to customers that Nintendo likes to keep a tight grip. So it's not like people don't know what's coming.)
Moru 5y ago
I caught on to their game after I bought the 16 bit console. Haven't touched nintendo since. They think they own the second hand market, you couldn't even buy a second hand game without nintendo wanting a cut of the sale. Every console is missing some feature that earlier had, and then they add that later and sell you the same console, just this time with an audio port! I forget all the details though, haven't really thought about nintendo or other consoles in many years.
- goosedragons 5y ago
  What are you talking about? Where would Nintendo get the cut of a used game sale? Especially in the 16 bit era? Arguably Microsoft was closest to do this with the whole Xbox One debacle. Is there a feature that the Game Boy had that the Game Boy Color lacked? Nope. GBA did drop the infrared port that was barely used by GBC games but my PS3 also can't use my PS1 memory cards nor can an Xbox One use a 360 memory card or the HD-DVD drive. And Series X lacks Kinect or HDMI in support. Poorly used or outdated features often go away.
  - ascagnel_ 5y ago
    The Game Boy Advance SP removed the traditional TRS headphone jack and replaced it with a custom connector (which was later re-used for the DS's power port). An adapter to allow the use of standard TRS headphones was an optional extra purchase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance_SP#Headphone_jack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance_SP#Headphone_...