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If we didn’t have profit protection measures like this everything would be much more expensive and that’s not a better alternative for most consumers.
by xwdv 5y ago
If we didn’t have profit protection measures like this everything would be much more expensive and that’s not a better alternative for most consumers.
- Sosh101 5y agoWell that's a whole other debate, but I'd like to know the legality now.
- xwdv 5y agoYou agreed to the terms of service. There is little to nothing you can do.
- Sosh101 5y agoYou can't write just want you want in an agreement. There are things that are not legally enforceable - even if the other party has agreed to them.
- ryandrake 5y agoI wonder if a company included "We have the right to send a company agent to enter your home and destroy this product." in their Terms Of Service, and you "agree" to it, would that simply allow them to do so? EDIT: I am not a lawyer, but I've always been surprised that Terms Of Service and End User License Agreements aren't routinely voided by courts. Aren't they perfect examples of unconscionable and adhesive [1] contracts? These seem to tick all the boxes: One-sided, no meaningful choice, no meeting of the minds, significant differences in bargaining power between the parties, no ability to negotiate, take-it-or-leave-it terms. You'd think these things were total junk, but they're everywhere and somehow enforceable? Why? 1: https://www.jensenlawmn.com/adhesion-contracts-unconscionable https://www.jensenlawmn.com/adhesion-contracts-unconscionabl...
- Sosh101 5y agoAnd it's the same for more subtle matters too.
- xwdv 5y agoThis would make a good movie or series, about a person whose job it is to go do things like this, and at times it could get dangerous when they encounter people who staunchly believe these EULAs are unenforceable.
- eru 5y agoKeep in mind that a license is different from a contract. Have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#License_versus_contract https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Lic... for an example of the difference.
- vel0city 5y ago> One-sided Its not really one-sided, if I agree to it then I can play Nintendo games on Nintendo hardware on Nintendo online services. Some people see that as a big benefit. > no meaningful choice I definitely have a choice on whether or not I buy/use a Nintendo Switch. My life won't end if I can't play Breath of the Wild or Smash Bros.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y agoSure, but someone would still have to call them on it and go through years of litigation and related expenses.
- selcuka 5y agoEverything is legal until it's not. Unless someone takes it to court they will get away with it. When that happens they will find a slightly more expensive and slightly more legal way to prevent piracy. Rinse and repeat.
- zucker42 5y agoThis is doubtful in my opinion, but Nintendo would certainly like us to believe that. I think that Nintendo does this for profiteering purposes, and also because they are irrationally restrictive of unintended usage of their hardware/software/artwork.
- mccorrinall 5y agoDo you remember the nintendo ds? Piracy was really awful on this one, especially in Japan. Almost no one bought original games until flash cards were finally banned.
- jobs_throwaway 5y agoany source for that claim?
- stolen_biscuit 5y agoHow is this a profit protection measure? And how does it prevent the Switch from being more expensive?
- selcuka 5y agoNintendo makes a profit from game sales, therefore sells the console almost at cost. This hardware measure prevents piracy.
- fuzzfactor 5y agoNot my downvote but I believe when you do the math the equation goes like this: (reduction in functionality) + (fewer options) + (loss of user control) + (handicapped operation) + (hardware underutilization) = higher prices for everyone This is not including things like (planned obsolescence) which are intended to make things more expensive without raising the sales price.
- eru 5y agoYou don't have to game on Nintendo devices. Open platforms are available on the market.