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You are correct. We should use the terminology "insanely selfish." If everyone (not immunosuppressed etc) got vaccinated, fewer people would die. This is scienc

You are correct. We should use the terminology "insanely selfish." If everyone (not immunosuppressed etc) got vaccinated, fewer people would die. This is science, not religion. This is not hard to understand unless you're willfully committed to ignorance. The existing vaccines have so far still been effective against newer strains, just less so. > The anti-anti-vax crowd is just a walking meme at this point. This is a semantically null statement.

cf141q5325 5y ago
You cant just apply some general knowledge about vaccinations to COVID with some selfrighteousness sprinkled on top. Unfortunately its not that easy >If everyone (not immunosuppressed etc) got vaccinated, fewer people would die. People at risk of a severe case of covid fare better when vaccinated. Thats it. You vaccinating yourself doesnt save an obese elderly person from covid. Its not magic. To be more precise, there wont be any herd immunity and that has been clear for well over a year. Its a leaky vaccine which means you still get it and spread it just as much as unvaccinated do. You are a bit less likely to catch it, but not to any meaningful degree. Especially not with the R0 of COVID mutations. Your behavior and non pharmaceutical interventions are still the driving factor. Differently put, you are vaccinating yourself to protect yourself, not others. You have some implicit protection of others through not overloading the hospital system, but not to the degree some people think. Risk groups are a very real thing and if you are not in one, there are a lot of daily risks you take which are quite a lot riskier. Unless we categorize them as selfish too, i am calling hypocritical double standard. I would also recommend some self reflection into whether you are using the fact that you are vaccinated as an letter of indulgence like far too many do. You do still spread it and covid isnt just solved once everyone is vaccinated. Not being honest with that could be described as willfully ignorant. Having identified a few especially stupid caricatures doesnt mean you are done thinking.

cf141q5325 5y ago

You cant just apply some general knowledge about vaccinations to COVID with some selfrighteousness sprinkled on top. Unfortunately its not that easy >If everyone (not immunosuppressed etc) got vaccinated, fewer people would die. People at risk of a severe case of covid fare better when vaccinated. Thats it. You vaccinating yourself doesnt save an obese elderly person from covid. Its not magic. To be more precise, there wont be any herd immunity and that has been clear for well over a year. Its a leaky vaccine which means you still get it and spread it just as much as unvaccinated do. You are a bit less likely to catch it, but not to any meaningful degree. Especially not with the R0 of COVID mutations. Your behavior and non pharmaceutical interventions are still the driving factor. Differently put, you are vaccinating yourself to protect yourself, not others. You have some implicit protection of others through not overloading the hospital system, but not to the degree some people think. Risk groups are a very real thing and if you are not in one, there are a lot of daily risks you take which are quite a lot riskier. Unless we categorize them as selfish too, i am calling hypocritical double standard. I would also recommend some self reflection into whether you are using the fact that you are vaccinated as an letter of indulgence like far too many do. You do still spread it and covid isnt just solved once everyone is vaccinated. Not being honest with that could be described as willfully ignorant. Having identified a few especially stupid caricatures doesnt mean you are done thinking.