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I think the niche of "personal vehicle that you can take on the metro" is better filled by PEVs. Shrinking down a bike's drivetrain size is harder than just pu

I think the niche of "personal vehicle that you can take on the metro" is better filled by PEVs. Shrinking down a bike's drivetrain size is harder than just putting together a single wheel, some circuit boards, batteries, and an electric motor to make an electric unicycle. A big advantage EUCs have is you don't have to bother with folding like a bike, just hop off, grab the trolley handle and walk on. Electric scooters have similar advantages but they have to compromise range, performance, and compactness for their ease of learning.

vkou 5y ago
I usually spend a few minutes waiting for public transit, though - which would be more than enough time to fold up a bicycle.
- cbm-vic-20 5y ago
  Once you get used to it, folding a Brompton takes less than ten seconds. I'm not as fast as this guy, though: https://youtu.be/Z-SRASKLqh8?t=36 https://youtu.be/Z-SRASKLqh8?t=36
rerx 5y ago
I haven't had a chance to try a single-wheel electric vehicle as they are not street legal in Germany. But usually I vastly prefer riding a bike over an electric stand-up scooter. My weight is distributed much better on a bike, making the right more stable. On a scooter I cannot reliably raise one arm to give a turn signal. Not signaling can be quite dangerous on shared roads or narrow paths. I never see anybody else indicate their turns on these scooters, so it's probably not a personal problem. Did any manufacturer figure out a way to put easy to read indicator lights on these? The other thing is that you actually get some light exercise on a bike. Most people with desk jobs would do well to move their bodies a bit more during their days. One thing that's nice some times about scooters is being able to stand up tall, rather than get into a slightly hunched up position on a bike. The Kwiggle from the GP allows for quite a unique upright body position. So that may be intriguing.

vkou 5y ago

I usually spend a few minutes waiting for public transit, though - which would be more than enough time to fold up a bicycle.

cbm-vic-20 5y ago
Once you get used to it, folding a Brompton takes less than ten seconds. I'm not as fast as this guy, though: https://youtu.be/Z-SRASKLqh8?t=36 https://youtu.be/Z-SRASKLqh8?t=36

rerx 5y ago

I haven't had a chance to try a single-wheel electric vehicle as they are not street legal in Germany. But usually I vastly prefer riding a bike over an electric stand-up scooter. My weight is distributed much better on a bike, making the right more stable. On a scooter I cannot reliably raise one arm to give a turn signal. Not signaling can be quite dangerous on shared roads or narrow paths. I never see anybody else indicate their turns on these scooters, so it's probably not a personal problem. Did any manufacturer figure out a way to put easy to read indicator lights on these? The other thing is that you actually get some light exercise on a bike. Most people with desk jobs would do well to move their bodies a bit more during their days. One thing that's nice some times about scooters is being able to stand up tall, rather than get into a slightly hunched up position on a bike. The Kwiggle from the GP allows for quite a unique upright body position. So that may be intriguing.