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Are you suggesting the average coder earns over $80K+. I don't think so. If the average age for founders is 26, then they possibly have half your work ex, which

by Keios 19y ago

Are you suggesting the average coder earns over $80K+. I don't think so. If the average age for founders is 26, then they possibly have half your work ex, which translates to a significantly lower salary. Here we are talking about people in general not your case specifically. Server costs can vary, but I would estimate my needs at around $1300+ within 6 months of launch (I will know exactly only once we have launched, I am hoping this turns out to be an understimation ;) and I am looking at service providers such as rackspace.com, servint.com, datapipe.com and serverbeach.com to name a few. Also what kind of servers are we talking here - in terms of hardware? Are you considering a separate db server? Can you refer me to some reliable host who has rack-mounted, dedicated servers at $250 and provides decent support. I don't know how long most ycombinator companies get by and on how much. It might be interesting to know. I would 'assume' that $15,000 finish in the 3 months. That's a fully loaded cost of $5000 per month. Typically people and hardware are the biggest costs, because there are no employees I think the larger cost may be servers and connectivity. And so it seems server cost is significant. Maybe someone with facts can add to this.

plinkplonk 19y ago
Read my post very carefully I never said "average coders gt 80 k" you are reacting to a strawman. "Average coders" probably shouldn't be attempting a world changing startup (strictly imo) Please react to what I actually said. I explicitly mentioned I am an outlier. anyway , using your figures, 1300$ for 12 months = (approx) 15 k. Are you saying a good technical person with about 3 years in the Industry can't get together with a couple of friends to fund their hosting ? (A good dev with 3 years exp can get 15k annual pay easily in Bangalore) Yes it is a little bit more difficult for people just out of college but hey all of us have to tailor our plans to our resources. If you can manage a decent user base in 3 months (3 months is how long YC funds their teams iirc ... hosting will cost bout 5000 $ - Even two kids just out of college should be able to manage that) you should do well with the vc folks. Now, if you are saying that you need lots of moolah in the bank before you attempt a software startup, I can only say my perceptions differ. Maybe you are right and I am wrong. Time will tell. I am too tired to continue. Been coding the last 15 hours or so. Ciao
- Keios 19y ago
  Friend, I say are you 'suggesting' not 'saying'. I said this because I don't know why else you stated your salary. Maybe I was mistaken. A good dev with 3 years of experience will have to spend money on absolutely nothin else if he spends $15000 in hosting annually. Surely you are not suggesting that ALL income can be put into hosting.

by Keios 19y ago

plinkplonk 19y ago

Read my post very carefully I never said "average coders gt 80 k" you are reacting to a strawman. "Average coders" probably shouldn't be attempting a world changing startup (strictly imo) Please react to what I actually said. I explicitly mentioned I am an outlier. anyway , using your figures, 1300$ for 12 months = (approx) 15 k. Are you saying a good technical person with about 3 years in the Industry can't get together with a couple of friends to fund their hosting ? (A good dev with 3 years exp can get 15k annual pay easily in Bangalore) Yes it is a little bit more difficult for people just out of college but hey all of us have to tailor our plans to our resources. If you can manage a decent user base in 3 months (3 months is how long YC funds their teams iirc ... hosting will cost bout 5000 $ - Even two kids just out of college should be able to manage that) you should do well with the vc folks. Now, if you are saying that you need lots of moolah in the bank before you attempt a software startup, I can only say my perceptions differ. Maybe you are right and I am wrong. Time will tell. I am too tired to continue. Been coding the last 15 hours or so. Ciao

Keios 19y ago
Friend, I say are you 'suggesting' not 'saying'. I said this because I don't know why else you stated your salary. Maybe I was mistaken. A good dev with 3 years of experience will have to spend money on absolutely nothin else if he spends $15000 in hosting annually. Surely you are not suggesting that ALL income can be put into hosting.