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A 5K display offers about 1,000 extra horizontal and 700 extra vertical pixels. When you're working with 4K images and video, that’s enough space for video edi

by eddyg 5y ago

A 5K display offers about 1,000 extra horizontal and 700 extra vertical pixels. When you're working with 4K images and video, that’s enough space for video editing tools on the side and timelines at the bottom, all while viewing "UltraHD" in its full, unscaled beauty. Until you've experienced what it's like to use a 5K (or even 6K, which will really spoil you), it's hard to appreciate why 4K is insufficient for many professionals.

silon42 5y ago
for that resolution, I'd want a ~40 inch or more.
kllrnohj 5y ago
Since you're talking about video editing, the lack of HDR is very nearly a deal breaker for that professional market. Also this is an 8bit + FRC panel if you care about that sort of thing. Regardless multi-monitor setups exist and are well supported, so it's not hard to get both a 4k preview at 1:1 scaling and have plenty of room for controls by just running 2 displays. It'd be nice to have it all - 5k, >60hz, and a decent HDR support. Even just 90hz would be a good improvement, but 120hz gets you zero pulldown for 24fps video! But alas that display doesn't exist. This display doesn't seem to really strike a good balance of what's achievable, it feels like a stop gap placeholder for the now canceled 27" iMac
- coob 5y ago
  Which is why Apple make the XDR for the professional market.
  - wlesieutre 5y ago
    It's not >60 Hz though
    - gannonburgett 5y ago
      You don't really ever need >60Hz for editing though. You're working with 60fps, at most, but even more likely 30fps or 24fps.
      - wlesieutre 5y ago
        I'm not much into video editing, but is it not useful that 120 hz is a multiple of 24, while 60 hz is not?
      - kllrnohj 5y ago
        Remember all those 120hz and 240hz plasma TVs back in the day that couldn't take any >60hz input signal? Yeah that wasn't just pointless marketing. It was so they could show 24fps and 48fps video content smoothly, without 3:2 pulldown artifacts. If you're working in a professional video studio, chances are you're probably going to encounter 24fps video. So yeah, still matters beyond gaming.
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- dbttdft 5y ago
  72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz, 240Hz, all fix pulldown and will all look exactly the same side by side. 72Hz (75Hz is normally what's tested) is noticeably smoother than 60Hz. Most 60Hz monitors support 75Hz, but since we're talking about niche products here chances are they have a different set of hidden features than usual (perhaps higher perhaps lower).
llampx 5y ago
Pixels are nothing without the corresponding physical real estate imo
- orangecat 5y ago
  Reading text is far more pleasant at high DPI, especially with proper scaling which you don't get at 27" 4k.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  This is why I have a comically large 43” 4k which I operate at 1x. It’s roughly the same density as a 27” at 1440. High DPI is nice and all, but I’ll take more space to work over pixel density any day.
  - ansible 5y ago
    I just have a 42in LG TV that I use as my main work monitor. It was around $220 a few years ago. After working out the kinks with using it (because a TV is not a monitor), it's been pretty good. I also position it further away from me than I would a normal monitor. In part, that is because I would otherwise see some dimming around the edges due to the viewing angle. And also because focusing further away works better (getting old can sometimes be inconvenient). It is just 60Hz, so you might not want to use it for gaming, though there are higher refresh TVs out there these days. Of course you have to dig through the marketing fluff to see if they are a true 120Hz panel or not.
    - eyelidlessness 5y ago
      Yeah mine is actually an IPS panel. Also 60Hz, but the viewing angles are great. I do have mine set back a bit more than my previous 27", but the more important adjustment I needed to make was to set it 6-8" lower. Before that, I only felt comfortable working on the bottom half of the screen.
- can16358p 5y ago
  While I also prefer small UI and more real estate with more pixels, even without real estate change a high DPI "retina" 2x and a regular DPI has a difference of night and day for me. But yes when I have the option I tend to choose the smaller UI settings too.
Swizec 5y ago
I've had the 5K LG 27" monitor for about 5 years now and 4K monitors just look blurry now. Feels like you can count the pixels even though you can't. Reading VSCode off this monitor feels like reading analog text on paper. It's amazing for eye strain. Really doesn't feel like you're staring at a screen all day.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  I experienced the same thing, even more abruptly, when I switched away from a 32 inch 4K monitor to a Samsung CRG9 49-inch monitor. Feels like I can count the pixels on the 49 inch monitor. I love the wider real estate, but now I want something with at least the vertical pixel density of the 4K monitor, but the same height as a 32 inch, and the same width as a 49 inch. Whatever that comes out to be.
arvinsim 5y ago
Or one can use 2 4K monitors side-by-side and can arguably be more productive. It's even cheaper than buying the Studio Display.

by eddyg 5y ago

silon42 5y ago

for that resolution, I'd want a ~40 inch or more.

kllrnohj 5y ago

Since you're talking about video editing, the lack of HDR is very nearly a deal breaker for that professional market. Also this is an 8bit + FRC panel if you care about that sort of thing. Regardless multi-monitor setups exist and are well supported, so it's not hard to get both a 4k preview at 1:1 scaling and have plenty of room for controls by just running 2 displays. It'd be nice to have it all - 5k, >60hz, and a decent HDR support. Even just 90hz would be a good improvement, but 120hz gets you zero pulldown for 24fps video! But alas that display doesn't exist. This display doesn't seem to really strike a good balance of what's achievable, it feels like a stop gap placeholder for the now canceled 27" iMac

coob 5y ago
Which is why Apple make the XDR for the professional market.
- wlesieutre 5y ago
  It's not >60 Hz though
  - gannonburgett 5y ago
    You don't really ever need >60Hz for editing though. You're working with 60fps, at most, but even more likely 30fps or 24fps.
    - wlesieutre 5y ago
      I'm not much into video editing, but is it not useful that 120 hz is a multiple of 24, while 60 hz is not?
    - kllrnohj 5y ago
      Remember all those 120hz and 240hz plasma TVs back in the day that couldn't take any >60hz input signal? Yeah that wasn't just pointless marketing. It was so they could show 24fps and 48fps video content smoothly, without 3:2 pulldown artifacts. If you're working in a professional video studio, chances are you're probably going to encounter 24fps video. So yeah, still matters beyond gaming.
      - deleted 5y ago
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dbttdft 5y ago
72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz, 240Hz, all fix pulldown and will all look exactly the same side by side. 72Hz (75Hz is normally what's tested) is noticeably smoother than 60Hz. Most 60Hz monitors support 75Hz, but since we're talking about niche products here chances are they have a different set of hidden features than usual (perhaps higher perhaps lower).

llampx 5y ago

Pixels are nothing without the corresponding physical real estate imo

orangecat 5y ago
Reading text is far more pleasant at high DPI, especially with proper scaling which you don't get at 27" 4k.
eyelidlessness 5y ago
This is why I have a comically large 43” 4k which I operate at 1x. It’s roughly the same density as a 27” at 1440. High DPI is nice and all, but I’ll take more space to work over pixel density any day.
- ansible 5y ago
  I just have a 42in LG TV that I use as my main work monitor. It was around $220 a few years ago. After working out the kinks with using it (because a TV is not a monitor), it's been pretty good. I also position it further away from me than I would a normal monitor. In part, that is because I would otherwise see some dimming around the edges due to the viewing angle. And also because focusing further away works better (getting old can sometimes be inconvenient). It is just 60Hz, so you might not want to use it for gaming, though there are higher refresh TVs out there these days. Of course you have to dig through the marketing fluff to see if they are a true 120Hz panel or not.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    Yeah mine is actually an IPS panel. Also 60Hz, but the viewing angles are great. I do have mine set back a bit more than my previous 27", but the more important adjustment I needed to make was to set it 6-8" lower. Before that, I only felt comfortable working on the bottom half of the screen.
can16358p 5y ago
While I also prefer small UI and more real estate with more pixels, even without real estate change a high DPI "retina" 2x and a regular DPI has a difference of night and day for me. But yes when I have the option I tend to choose the smaller UI settings too.

Swizec 5y ago

I've had the 5K LG 27" monitor for about 5 years now and 4K monitors just look blurry now. Feels like you can count the pixels even though you can't. Reading VSCode off this monitor feels like reading analog text on paper. It's amazing for eye strain. Really doesn't feel like you're staring at a screen all day.

rootusrootus 5y ago
I experienced the same thing, even more abruptly, when I switched away from a 32 inch 4K monitor to a Samsung CRG9 49-inch monitor. Feels like I can count the pixels on the 49 inch monitor. I love the wider real estate, but now I want something with at least the vertical pixel density of the 4K monitor, but the same height as a 32 inch, and the same width as a 49 inch. Whatever that comes out to be.

arvinsim 5y ago

Or one can use 2 4K monitors side-by-side and can arguably be more productive. It's even cheaper than buying the Studio Display.