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>If you cannot service a language, do not offer anything in that language. So block messages in any languages other than the ones you officially support? I cou
by ginko 5y ago
>If you cannot service a language, do not offer anything in that language.
So block messages in any languages other than the ones you officially support? I could imagine people getting up in arms about that.
- Loughla 5y agoOkay? If they get up in arms, that's proof of a market and incentive to provide support for that language? I'm confused by what your actual argument is here.
- ginko 5y agoThere's many minority languages out there. Imagine posts in Basque or Uyghur being deleted because they're not in the list of "good" languages. Or Rohingya for that matter. People would rightfully call it linguistic suppression.
- Loughla 5y agoImagine a world where a multi-national, multi-billion dollar company had the resources available to provide support for all of those minority languages. Spoiler - it's our current world. They have the resources. I cannot be convinced that native language support for all languages in the world isn't an option for companies that make literally hundreds of Billions of dollars annually. If you want to make money on a language via selling ads, you should be able to moderate that content in that language. I have no idea why you're fighting against that argument.
- mikeyouse 5y agoThis isn't about random posts in those languages - it's about paid content promotion. There's surely a different level of responsibility for Facebook to accept funds to promote a post vs. host a post?
- overthemoon 5y agoIf Facebook deciding not to run ads in Basque means that language is being suppressed, then there are larger problems than Facebook's ad policy.
- monocasa 5y agoDon't take money in exchange for displaying ads you don't understand is probably more what they're talking about.
- nowherebeen 5y agoThey are a billion dollar company, do you really think they can't find people in any language they want? I highly doubt it. Arabic, Spanish, English, and Mandarin cover >60% of the languages spoken on earth. The operational cost will rise substantially and hurt their bottom line.
- ginko 5y agoI'm not thinking of FB in particular here, but even they can't moderate _all_ languages. Some only have hundreds of speakers to begin with.
- jeromegv 5y agoIt's not about moderating all language, it's about SELLING ADS in all languages. If they make money from those ads, then they should have people hired to review those ads. If they can't find the people, then just don't sell ads in that market.
- wutbrodo 5y agoYea, I think the current consensus on content moderation is dangerous and detached from reality. But ads are specifically a profit center. Price them so you can have the level of basic moderation that allows you to catch ads that verbatim say "kill these people". That's absolutely the kind of thing you can do with low fixed costs + variable costs correlated to the price of the ads (eg local labor).
- btown 5y agoThere's a huge ethical distinction IMO between blocking messages when moderation is insufficient, and allowing paid advertisements when moderation is insufficient.
- billyhoffman 5y agoThis is specifically about Facebook selling Ads. Don't broaden this to be about policing all speech on their platform. If Facebook sells ad space, they 100% are responsible to vet that the ad meets their standards before publishing. Not being able to read it because it's in a language Facebook is incapable of reading means they either need to decline to publish it (and not take any money) or hire appropriate staff to vet it (and pay them using the money you get from selling the ad).