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This is eroding also. For example, Kathy Hochul ordered that priority be given to patients of "Non-white race or Hispanic/Latino ethnicity" when seeking certain

This is eroding also. For example, Kathy Hochul ordered that priority be given to patients of "Non-white race or Hispanic/Latino ethnicity" when seeking certain covid therapies, citing "longstanding systemic health and social inequities." The framework operates on a points system, and that affords a point. See page 3: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2021/12/prioritization_of_mabs_during_resource_shortages_20211229.pdf https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/system/files/documents/202...

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ta1647960311 5y ago
lp0_on_fire 5y ago
Of course Kathy Hochul, a white woman herself, would get platinum care because she's governor. Disgusting.
- geodel 5y ago
  Maybe we can extend her logic like depending on one's standing in society their treatment priority will be reversed. So governor as first citizen of the state would be last person to be treated for ailments and so on.
  - lp0_on_fire 5y ago
    Fat chance of that ever happening. American politicians have shown time and time again they think they're above us rubes. (See ACA exemptions, the lack of effective insider trading laws, 21% pay increases for them and their staff this year, etc).
    - soundnote 5y ago
      They made strict covid rules and went dining with friends in complete breach of those rules.
nicwolff 5y ago
You left out that those inequities "have contributed to an increased risk of severe illness and death from COVID-19" which is accurate according to the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-race-ethnicity.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...
- lp0_on_fire 5y ago
  > Race and ethnicity are risk markers for other underlying conditions that affect health, including socioeconomic status, access to health care, and exposure to the virus related to occupation, e.g., frontline, essential, and critical infrastructure workers. So the white people who have poor socioeconomic status, access to health care or are exposed as front-line workers are just out of luck, eh? It's a racist policy prima facia.
0des 5y ago
This is racist.
tzs 5y ago
That document is talking about triaging when there is a shortage of monoclonal antibodies and oral antivirals so they can't treat everyone. The goal then is to try to minimize the number of people whose COVID progresses to severe COVID. Like it or not the fact is that race and ethnicity is in fact a decent indicator of probability that someone's case will progress to severe COVID. Maybe that is due to "longstanding systemic health and social inequities" or maybe it is due to something else but the why doesn't really matter from a triaging point of view. From a triaging point of view it is not much different than obesity or age or any other observable characteristic or attribute of the patient that experience has shown correlates with outcomes.
- Jensson 5y ago
  Men are significantly more at risk of severe covid than women, if they actually cared about the risk of different demographics they would have also prioritized males. Applying a set of ideals in just the situations that suits you is called hypocrisy.

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ta1647960311 5y ago

lp0_on_fire 5y ago

Of course Kathy Hochul, a white woman herself, would get platinum care because she's governor. Disgusting.

geodel 5y ago
Maybe we can extend her logic like depending on one's standing in society their treatment priority will be reversed. So governor as first citizen of the state would be last person to be treated for ailments and so on.
- lp0_on_fire 5y ago
  Fat chance of that ever happening. American politicians have shown time and time again they think they're above us rubes. (See ACA exemptions, the lack of effective insider trading laws, 21% pay increases for them and their staff this year, etc).
  - soundnote 5y ago
    They made strict covid rules and went dining with friends in complete breach of those rules.

nicwolff 5y ago

You left out that those inequities "have contributed to an increased risk of severe illness and death from COVID-19" which is accurate according to the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-race-ethnicity.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...

lp0_on_fire 5y ago
> Race and ethnicity are risk markers for other underlying conditions that affect health, including socioeconomic status, access to health care, and exposure to the virus related to occupation, e.g., frontline, essential, and critical infrastructure workers. So the white people who have poor socioeconomic status, access to health care or are exposed as front-line workers are just out of luck, eh? It's a racist policy prima facia.

0des 5y ago

This is racist.

tzs 5y ago

That document is talking about triaging when there is a shortage of monoclonal antibodies and oral antivirals so they can't treat everyone. The goal then is to try to minimize the number of people whose COVID progresses to severe COVID. Like it or not the fact is that race and ethnicity is in fact a decent indicator of probability that someone's case will progress to severe COVID. Maybe that is due to "longstanding systemic health and social inequities" or maybe it is due to something else but the why doesn't really matter from a triaging point of view. From a triaging point of view it is not much different than obesity or age or any other observable characteristic or attribute of the patient that experience has shown correlates with outcomes.

Jensson 5y ago
Men are significantly more at risk of severe covid than women, if they actually cared about the risk of different demographics they would have also prioritized males. Applying a set of ideals in just the situations that suits you is called hypocrisy.