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> Germany was held up as the global model over and over. They were/are, but IMO, Germany seem to be in a terrible position re managing their energy needs. The
by verisimi 5y ago
> Germany was held up as the global model over and over.
They were/are, but IMO, Germany seem to be in a terrible position re managing their energy needs.
They have had huge price increases - partly because they have had such dependence on Russia, and because they have removed their own power plants.
- panick21_ 5y agoHow are they the model when France had green energy since the 90s? CO2 saved earlier is far more helpful.
- ovi256 5y agoPeople who choose the narrative of who the model is are thought leaders like journalists, academics and politicians. They are narrative and process oriented, not outcome oriented. This means that when a process started with good intentions fails horribly (like Germany's decarbonation) they do not change opinions - Germany tried to do the right thing (even if it was a risky bet without precedent) so it's blameless. There is no course correction - the process was correct wasn't it ? Furthermore, they have entrenched this mode of functioning in Western societies, who have become process not outcome oriented. People interested in hacking and startups are probably among the most outcome oriented, so have trouble understanding how this process oriented mindset without course correction can exist.
- ZeroGravitas 5y agoBecause France is planning to follow Germany's lead? Would be weird to hold France up as a model. "Let the Nuclear plants you built a generation ago slowly age out and be replaced by renewables that Germany helped establish" isn't something most countries could emulate, they'll jump straight to the renewables, because they're cheaper and better.
- panick21_ 5y agoBecause the same culture unfortunately prevails. France is no longer as green as it was because of that.
- ohgodplsno 5y agoYou can thank 30 years of sabotage by ecologists for our nuclear industry stagnating, and 20 years of complete incompetence by our politicians.
- masklinn 5y ago> You can thank 30 years of sabotage by ecologists 40+. The protests against superphenix started immediately and the rocket attack on the site was in 1982. The attacker was Chaïm Nissim, who’d go on to get elected in geneva as a member of the swiss green party.
- kergonath 5y agoGermany has much more soft power in the anglophone world, for both wrong and bad reasons. Hence the idealisation of the German Engineer. France is more of a pain in the arse and more difficult to take seriously.