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My memory fails me, but I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who said he didn't mind people copying him and Black Sabbath. What was important is that they add some of t

My memory fails me, but I think it was Ozzy Osbourne who said he didn't mind people copying him and Black Sabbath. What was important is that they add some of themselves to it, that's how we evolve. And I agree. All art is copied to begin with, it just depends on how much of yourself you put into your version. If it's a lot, then it will appear quite original.

kuu 5y ago
That's the idea behind the documentary "Everything is a remix" on YouTube. Worth to watch
- OgAstorga 5y ago
  This X10. Nowadays is virtually impossible to create something out of thin-air. We learn from our teachers, our books, and our influencers. From a philosophical standpoint it's very difficult to defend the idea of "copyright".
ZeroGravitas 5y ago
I'm very positive on creative 'copying' and feel even your comment has a hint of disapproval that is common in society and counterproductive. Everything I've read about artists I respect seems to involve them falling in love with another artists work and aping it when they are young. Even once they get famous, I find originality has more to do with where they get their inspiration than what they put into it themselves. I love tracing the roots of the things I love. It's endlessly rewarding. And now I'm going to watch this anime. One of my favourite words is "scenius", the genius of a collective artistic scene. This necessarily implies 'copying' and mutual inspiration. And I think the same applies to software. I'm generally more excited about something that is the next step in an evolution, than something that pretends it's entirely new.
- lleb97a 5y ago
  The only thing I disapprove of is when I feel that the copy is cheap and lazy, and on the internet, without acknowledgement of the inspiration. > I find originality has more to do with where they get their inspiration than what they put into it themselves. I'm not sure I understand how you're separating a person's inspiration from who they are. If I'm inspired by something, it's because it talks to me as a person. If the person then creates something, how have I not put the inspiration (myself) into it. They are one and the same to me.
  - ZeroGravitas 5y ago
    'originality' often means 'I've never seen anything like that before' but carries the implication of 'no one has ever done that before'. But if someone takes random musical thing that's been happening for centuries in a folk tradition or something that weird Avant guard artists are doing and turns it into pop culture, that'll often be seen as 'original' in the first sense as it is new to most viewers when it's not original in the second sense. "Rapper's Delight" by Sugarhill Gang is a good example, it's both original (first hip hop record success) and totally ripped off at the same time, while also being really good.
toyg 5y ago
This is all true, but it's not what the legal system of the richest countries think. If a little Greek director were to sway a little too close to, say, The Wrestler or Black Swan, you could bet he'd be sued into nothingness by Fox Searchlight. The power imbalance in creative copyright is real.
agumonkey 5y ago
Even without adding something more, I want to see grit and passion. You can cover it 1:1 if you "get it" and not just want the attention from something known to work.

kuu 5y ago

That's the idea behind the documentary "Everything is a remix" on YouTube. Worth to watch

OgAstorga 5y ago
This X10. Nowadays is virtually impossible to create something out of thin-air. We learn from our teachers, our books, and our influencers. From a philosophical standpoint it's very difficult to defend the idea of "copyright".

ZeroGravitas 5y ago

I'm very positive on creative 'copying' and feel even your comment has a hint of disapproval that is common in society and counterproductive. Everything I've read about artists I respect seems to involve them falling in love with another artists work and aping it when they are young. Even once they get famous, I find originality has more to do with where they get their inspiration than what they put into it themselves. I love tracing the roots of the things I love. It's endlessly rewarding. And now I'm going to watch this anime. One of my favourite words is "scenius", the genius of a collective artistic scene. This necessarily implies 'copying' and mutual inspiration. And I think the same applies to software. I'm generally more excited about something that is the next step in an evolution, than something that pretends it's entirely new.

lleb97a 5y ago
The only thing I disapprove of is when I feel that the copy is cheap and lazy, and on the internet, without acknowledgement of the inspiration. > I find originality has more to do with where they get their inspiration than what they put into it themselves. I'm not sure I understand how you're separating a person's inspiration from who they are. If I'm inspired by something, it's because it talks to me as a person. If the person then creates something, how have I not put the inspiration (myself) into it. They are one and the same to me.
- ZeroGravitas 5y ago
  'originality' often means 'I've never seen anything like that before' but carries the implication of 'no one has ever done that before'. But if someone takes random musical thing that's been happening for centuries in a folk tradition or something that weird Avant guard artists are doing and turns it into pop culture, that'll often be seen as 'original' in the first sense as it is new to most viewers when it's not original in the second sense. "Rapper's Delight" by Sugarhill Gang is a good example, it's both original (first hip hop record success) and totally ripped off at the same time, while also being really good.

toyg 5y ago

This is all true, but it's not what the legal system of the richest countries think. If a little Greek director were to sway a little too close to, say, The Wrestler or Black Swan, you could bet he'd be sued into nothingness by Fox Searchlight. The power imbalance in creative copyright is real.

agumonkey 5y ago

Even without adding something more, I want to see grit and passion. You can cover it 1:1 if you "get it" and not just want the attention from something known to work.