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i do believe that something Y combinator could be the early initiators of change, of course the startups are flaky but I wonder why google can hire top talent i

by rsdighe 19y ago

i do believe that something Y combinator could be the early initiators of change, of course the startups are flaky but I wonder why google can hire top talent in bangalore and something like guruji cannot build a better search engine?? it can't be lack of talent ? zoho is based in pleasanton if i am not wrong its just owned by indian that hardly makes it a Indian startup. anyways it doesn't have to be Y Combinator i think there are pretty smart people will india who will start it sooner or later it just remains to be seen who it will be.

plinkplonk 19y ago
"I wonder why google can hire top talent in bangalore and something like Guruji cannot build a better search engine?" Ha but that was my point. The really good guys prefer to work for companies (and mostly emigrate to America) rather than start their own companies in India. Guruji can't build a better search engine because they aren't as good as the folks who work on Google's Search Engine. hint: that (kind of core tech )work doesn't happen in Google Bangalore anyway. hint2 : look at the bios of Guruji's founders and employees for evidence of significant technical expertise. Compare them to Page and Brin and the others who created the Google search engine :-)). Someone will outcompete Google some day. It won't be Guruji. Do you know how hard Google has found it to hire the (very few) people they have in their Bangalore centre in spite of offering astronomical (compared to the rest of the market) salaries? Talk to someone in Goog recuiting for their tale of woe. I have friends in Goog India and I know what they work on - believe me it is nothing of company shaking importance. The technical centre of gravity of Google (or Yahoo or Microsoft, or Oracle, or Intel) , especially on the innovation axis (which is what we are discussing here) is well away from the shores of India. Google hires some 'technical talent' in India sure enough.But do they hire people good enough to create the next killer startup? There is no evidence yet. I'll be glad to be proved wrong. "I think there are pretty smart people will India who will start it sooner or later it just remains to be seen who it will be." I agree. But I'd bet on "later". It is not about how smart people are. Given a billion people one would expect quite a few smart people. It is (among other things) about what the culture is like as (you report) Sacca pointed out.
- rsdighe 19y ago
  what i meant was that if google can get good people, a incubator with a strong backer like sabeer bhatia who is known in india should attract lot of good talent. in any instance, I find your arguments to be all true in the present but not necessarily forward looking - we all know that india in good in certain things and not in another. i have heard similar arguments when i moved to UK that people are not entrepreneurial but look deep enough and you find enough evidence that there is change happening they aren't just out their thumping that we have done this or that. - the question to be answered is what has to change to make it a reality !.

by rsdighe 19y ago

plinkplonk 19y ago

"I wonder why google can hire top talent in bangalore and something like Guruji cannot build a better search engine?" Ha but that was my point. The really good guys prefer to work for companies (and mostly emigrate to America) rather than start their own companies in India. Guruji can't build a better search engine because they aren't as good as the folks who work on Google's Search Engine. hint: that (kind of core tech )work doesn't happen in Google Bangalore anyway. hint2 : look at the bios of Guruji's founders and employees for evidence of significant technical expertise. Compare them to Page and Brin and the others who created the Google search engine :-)). Someone will outcompete Google some day. It won't be Guruji. Do you know how hard Google has found it to hire the (very few) people they have in their Bangalore centre in spite of offering astronomical (compared to the rest of the market) salaries? Talk to someone in Goog recuiting for their tale of woe. I have friends in Goog India and I know what they work on - believe me it is nothing of company shaking importance. The technical centre of gravity of Google (or Yahoo or Microsoft, or Oracle, or Intel) , especially on the innovation axis (which is what we are discussing here) is well away from the shores of India. Google hires some 'technical talent' in India sure enough.But do they hire people good enough to create the next killer startup? There is no evidence yet. I'll be glad to be proved wrong. "I think there are pretty smart people will India who will start it sooner or later it just remains to be seen who it will be." I agree. But I'd bet on "later". It is not about how smart people are. Given a billion people one would expect quite a few smart people. It is (among other things) about what the culture is like as (you report) Sacca pointed out.

rsdighe 19y ago
what i meant was that if google can get good people, a incubator with a strong backer like sabeer bhatia who is known in india should attract lot of good talent. in any instance, I find your arguments to be all true in the present but not necessarily forward looking - we all know that india in good in certain things and not in another. i have heard similar arguments when i moved to UK that people are not entrepreneurial but look deep enough and you find enough evidence that there is change happening they aren't just out their thumping that we have done this or that. - the question to be answered is what has to change to make it a reality !.