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> 1. We do not want war. In 2014 Russia invaded Ukraine, the world did nothing of consequence which emboldened the aggressor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ru
by mjevans 5y ago
> 1. We do not want war.
In 2014 Russia invaded Ukraine, the world did nothing of consequence which emboldened the aggressor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations#Annexation_of_Crimea_and_war_in_eastern_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_relatio...
> 2. The other side is solely responsible for the war.
Aside from good countries and people turning a blind eye and doing nothing; yes. Russia is clearly responsible for the aggression and (presumed guilty in the court of media coverage) warcrimes (yet to be tried and found guilty anywhere; but the gears of law are slow and this official designation will likely happen after the war).
> 3. The enemy has the face of the devil.
No comment, but I don't think anyone believes the average soldier on either side is this.
> 4. It is a noble cause that we defend and not particular interests.
As if anyone could ever drop 'particular interests' in any action that could border on the next world war or the deployment of weapons of mass destruction (Russia's nukes).
> 5. The enemy commits atrocities knowingly; if we make unfortunate mistakes, it is involuntary.
Some occasional error? Maybe mistakes. Repeated attacks on civilian targets? Not mistakes.
> 6. The enemy uses unauthorised weapons.
We hope not, thus far the really bad ones haven't been covered, at least just yet.
> 7. We suffer very few losses, while the losses of the enemy are enormous.
We, the general West, have so far not been involved in the fighting. Those who are involved seem to both be taking unfortunate losses.
> 8. Artists and intellectuals support our cause.
> 9. Our cause has a sacred nature.
To make the world a better place with more freedoms and personal liberties, quality and safety of life, and less war-mongering dictators?
> 10. Those who question our statements are traitors.
Which statements are in question? You and others are all free to do so in the society I live in. While I have heard that laws in Russia have 'consequences' for the dissemination of facts and opinions the government disagrees with. Some of the cases have been light. Many protestors have been arrested though.
- c0nducktr 5y agoI don't have the interest or time to go through all of these, (and I many of your comments I don't disagree with) but this one stuck out: > 7. We suffer very few losses, while the losses of the enemy are enormous. Everything I've seen in the media (I live in the USA) has been about how the Ukrainian forces have been absolutely kicking the Russian's asses in this war. The "West" supports Ukraine, so their forces could be consider "our forces". It might be true, might not be, but it would fall in line with these 'Principles of War Propaganda"
- mjevans 5y agoYes, my "answer" to that question was a specific dodge, which also let me cast the losses on the actively fighting sides in a light I view as morally correct. __all__ of those people fighting in Ukraine right now are unfortunate. Ukrainians for a greedy invasion directed by the elite in a far away land, and the soldiers of that same land who, surely, are getting the worst feed of propaganda of all. None who are injured or dieing have any real say in the outcome. They are all unfortunate people.