> That's 53 years ago. What is your basis for saying "It never ended"? Are you demanding evidence? I mean, yes, "it never ended" is a bold claim, but we have

> That's 53 years ago. What is your basis for saying "It never ended"? Are you demanding evidence? I mean, yes, "it never ended" is a bold claim, but we have no evidence that it ended either, so the alternative also would be a bold claim. Depending on the actual intent of the organizations that did these horrifying things long ago, the fact that they got away with it might mean they never had a reason to stop, or it might mean that they really were doing mostly-low-harm studies to protect us from others' more harmful designs. But we just don't know. It's not unreasonable to assume that "it never ended" in the absence of evidence to the contrary given that - it happened at all and especially if: - there was no controversy at the time - no controls were put in place to prevent re-occurrence - we only found recently - there was no controversy when we found out recently Certainly one should wonder. And out of an abundance of caution we should assume that "it never ended". Evidence that it never happened again, of course, will be hard to come by just on account of negatives being hard to prove... But we could have evidence of controls and audits put in place to prevent these things from happening, so: is there any such evidence?