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I wonder how long before someone comes up with a fake battery pack that looks identical and registers as having a higher battery power then it actually does and
by 14 5y ago
I wonder how long before someone comes up with a fake battery pack that looks identical and registers as having a higher battery power then it actually does and has fewer cells internally so they can take the real higher power more cells genuine battery and leave behind a fake on that barely works. Like fake memory cards you can get from wish.com that state they have much higher memory then what they actually have.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y agoYou're not going to get much repeat business if you hand out crappy batteries. It seems like incentives are decently well-aligned here. I guess you might be able to scam the rechargers themselves if you want to "return" a knock off. But if I were them I would put tamper resistant asset tags on my batteries and ensure that whatever battery im taking back is the same as the one I handed out.
- Gigachad 5y agoIt’s the same as any kind of theft really. You probably get away with it to start but eventually the loss becomes great enough that the company pays attention and starts tracking it down. And if you have been doing this on a large scale you could be looking at serious criminal theft.
- markdown 5y agoAbout as long as it would take for Gogoro to put a camera on their battery kiosks.
- neurostimulant 5y agoThankfully someone with such skill will be very unlikely to commit petty theft like this when there are more profitable endeavors to pursue with their skill.
- cyberbanjo 5y agoNo way! Just because you're skillful doesn't mean you're property utilized, or even (easily) utilizable, due to other issues. I met plenty handy unemployed without steady housing.
- stingrae 5y agoThis is relatively straight forward to prevent with signed certificates stored on a secure coprocessor.
- silvestrov 5y agoEach battery can have a serial number and an embedded ARM chip and the charger be connected to the internet. So the central server will reject the battery if it can't authenticate with the proper RSA private key, or that key is already online somewhere else. Just like creditcards with chips are validated each time.
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- bduerst 5y agoYou don't even need to go that far with the on-board hardware. Just track battery exchange history with charging pattern data, and identify offenders. Bad actors can spoof the battery charge reader, but it's much harder to spoof the juice out of the charger.
- ffhhj 5y agoBattery tracking leads to ads. Ads lead to the dark patterns of the force.
- phh 5y agoI uh, don't see the point? You have the charging electronics which will tell you very quickly when a battery is dead, and you know which subscriber gave you the faulty battery. Sure faulty batteries can happen naturally (and accidentally), two faulty batteries though should be statistically enough to trigger an investigation from the company.
- munk-a 5y agoI think the idea is that the battery reports voltage like a mostly charged normal battery for just long enough for you to leave the scene with a good battery. Ideally this would be coupled with lax device receipt keeping so while the company could tell that one of these thousand customers that used the kiosk that day returned the faulty battery it'd be hard to pinpoint a specific wrong doer. That said, it feels like the margins on this would be low enough to make it not worth the effort.
- imhoguy 5y agoAnd get life ban for the subscription. I think these batteries are properly sealed and their ROI is pretty quick. Much more benefit is from that rapid electricity transfer/exchange.