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What is the problem with what they keep saying? They don't want to send their would-be viewers to a site that promotes white nationalist content on their home p

What is the problem with what they keep saying? They don't want to send their would-be viewers to a site that promotes white nationalist content on their home page. Who would, besides racists and edgelords?

janto 5y ago
Free expression and dialog is how we grow. Who would be against that?
- notreallyserio 5y ago
  Exactly how does dialogue with white nationalists help the rest of us grow? Their goals are to remove, silence, or destroy people that have different immutable characteristics. How do you suppose that impacts free expression?
  - janto 5y ago
    At the very least, through dialog, if you are wise, you will recognise these goals in yourself as well.
  - Ourgon 5y ago
    Don't you realise the same can be said about many of those categories I mentioned elsewhere in this thread? For sure those communists only are out to topple out liberal democracy, why would we support that? Those AFA-anarchists are only out to do the same using even more violent methods, not shunning anything to create their dystopia, who would want to support that? Why should people who call out for the eradication of all men be allowed to use Peertube? Who wants to watch black supremacist material other than black supremacists and why should they be allowed to use this tool for their nefarious purposes? This list can be made as long as you want, eventually asking why the knitting club should be allowed to spread their racism using Peertube [1]. So, no. Either everyone is censored or no-one is. I vote for the latter, let the law decide what is allowed and keep it at that. If it isn't forbidden, it is allowed. [1] this is not a joke, see https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/2/25/18234950/knitting-racism-instagram-stories https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/2/25/18234950/knitting-ra... where they seriously talk about 'Fiber artists of color' (?) pointing out the 'racism' (?) in the knitting 'community'.
sundarurfriend 5y ago
They don't have to. Their site will be entirely separate and hosted under whatever domain they want. Imagine using WordPress to construct your website. If some page existed that listed all the sites that use WordPress, and that listed some disagreeable ones (as it surely would), that has very little impact on your usage of the software.

janto 5y ago

Free expression and dialog is how we grow. Who would be against that?

notreallyserio 5y ago
Exactly how does dialogue with white nationalists help the rest of us grow? Their goals are to remove, silence, or destroy people that have different immutable characteristics. How do you suppose that impacts free expression?
- janto 5y ago
  At the very least, through dialog, if you are wise, you will recognise these goals in yourself as well.
- Ourgon 5y ago
  Don't you realise the same can be said about many of those categories I mentioned elsewhere in this thread? For sure those communists only are out to topple out liberal democracy, why would we support that? Those AFA-anarchists are only out to do the same using even more violent methods, not shunning anything to create their dystopia, who would want to support that? Why should people who call out for the eradication of all men be allowed to use Peertube? Who wants to watch black supremacist material other than black supremacists and why should they be allowed to use this tool for their nefarious purposes? This list can be made as long as you want, eventually asking why the knitting club should be allowed to spread their racism using Peertube [1]. So, no. Either everyone is censored or no-one is. I vote for the latter, let the law decide what is allowed and keep it at that. If it isn't forbidden, it is allowed. [1] this is not a joke, see https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/2/25/18234950/knitting-racism-instagram-stories https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/2/25/18234950/knitting-ra... where they seriously talk about 'Fiber artists of color' (?) pointing out the 'racism' (?) in the knitting 'community'.

sundarurfriend 5y ago

They don't have to. Their site will be entirely separate and hosted under whatever domain they want. Imagine using WordPress to construct your website. If some page existed that listed all the sites that use WordPress, and that listed some disagreeable ones (as it surely would), that has very little impact on your usage of the software.