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That's such a broad criteria that it's next to impossible to give good recommendations. What does that mean? Could you make a list of requirements that would ma

That's such a broad criteria that it's next to impossible to give good recommendations. What does that mean? Could you make a list of requirements that would make one platform more "creator-friendly" than another?

mikepurvis 5y ago
I think one of the biggest key questions is, how much do you need/want the platform to assist with authoring, engagement, and discovery? YouTube is okay at this; TikTok is excellent at it. TikTok provides the fyp, community management, authoring and captioning tools, access to thousands of sound/music clips to use where they're handling the legal side, etc. Ostensibly this is very, very "creator-friendly", but only for a fairly specific niche of TikTok-like content, and only if you're not skirting the line of what they'll censor. Vimeo has always felt to me more like a larger Vidyard— the content is 100% on you, but they'll handle the technical side as far as encoding and distributing, and give you a clean player widget you can embed on your own site.
- atoav 5y ago
  Embedding a HTML5 video player with some javascript on top is quite trivial. I think the actual, reliable, fast and somewhat affordable global distribution of video streams is the actual meat of the problem from the perspective of someone who would eventually just self-host. That doesn't mean that a considerable amount of non-tech or low-tech (for certain definitions of low) people wouldn't rely on the actual tech expertise in terms of encodings, poster frames, subtitles, chapter marks, time-coded comments or similar things.
  - mikepurvis 5y ago
    Sure, but that comes back to who the "creator" is in this scenario and what their actual needs are. Embeddable video hosting might be perfect for an e-learning site, or an indie film studio, or someone providing paid online music lessons, or whatever. But if the "creator" in this scenario is khaby.lame or kallmekris, a service that helps them host their own videos on their own site is of zero use; those are social media personalities who take the hosting and technical side for granted— their primary need is exposure to a gigantic audience.
    - atoav 5y ago
      For which Vimeo was never the golden choice before. Most people I know who pay for vimeo are film makers who need hosting, sometimws for piblic stuff, sometimes with a password for preview purposes. A bit like soundcloud for video.

mikepurvis 5y ago

I think one of the biggest key questions is, how much do you need/want the platform to assist with authoring, engagement, and discovery? YouTube is okay at this; TikTok is excellent at it. TikTok provides the fyp, community management, authoring and captioning tools, access to thousands of sound/music clips to use where they're handling the legal side, etc. Ostensibly this is very, very "creator-friendly", but only for a fairly specific niche of TikTok-like content, and only if you're not skirting the line of what they'll censor. Vimeo has always felt to me more like a larger Vidyard— the content is 100% on you, but they'll handle the technical side as far as encoding and distributing, and give you a clean player widget you can embed on your own site.

atoav 5y ago
Embedding a HTML5 video player with some javascript on top is quite trivial. I think the actual, reliable, fast and somewhat affordable global distribution of video streams is the actual meat of the problem from the perspective of someone who would eventually just self-host. That doesn't mean that a considerable amount of non-tech or low-tech (for certain definitions of low) people wouldn't rely on the actual tech expertise in terms of encodings, poster frames, subtitles, chapter marks, time-coded comments or similar things.
- mikepurvis 5y ago
  Sure, but that comes back to who the "creator" is in this scenario and what their actual needs are. Embeddable video hosting might be perfect for an e-learning site, or an indie film studio, or someone providing paid online music lessons, or whatever. But if the "creator" in this scenario is khaby.lame or kallmekris, a service that helps them host their own videos on their own site is of zero use; those are social media personalities who take the hosting and technical side for granted— their primary need is exposure to a gigantic audience.
  - atoav 5y ago
    For which Vimeo was never the golden choice before. Most people I know who pay for vimeo are film makers who need hosting, sometimws for piblic stuff, sometimes with a password for preview purposes. A bit like soundcloud for video.