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I hope that, just like companies are required to pay for their externality damages like Superfund sites, ICE companies should be required to subsidize EV adopti

I hope that, just like companies are required to pay for their externality damages like Superfund sites, ICE companies should be required to subsidize EV adoption themselves to help pay for the reduction of Superfunding our air they contributed to. It's 2022, these standard vehicle specs are $55k, far above the average consumer's ability to fit into a reasonable budget, and 60,000 people a year are dying to particulate pollution in the US from the ICE's that Ford still sells. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1137375/air-pollution-deaths-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1137375/air-pollution-de...

ct0 5y ago
I thought EV's were already subsidized in some way or another. You know, not everyone has a way to charge a car. Think about street parking, apartment renters or any home without a 200amp electrical service.
NoNameHaveI 5y ago
You're joking right? The lobbyists own this country's government.
AtlasBarfed 5y ago
They pretty much do by buying credits from Tesla, which then (even on this site) a hoard of astroturfers use to say "Tesla is only profitable because it is subsidized by the government!!!". Sigh. Per your comment, those credits are functioning exactly as designed, although I'd like to see them expanded. Actually, I'd like a $10000 rebate (NOT tax credit) on EVs that drops $500-$1000/year. That would encourage adoption and companies to get their models on the road. I would like the same for a 100 mile range PHEV, which would probably be a better use of the battery manufacturing capacity, and easier for more companies to get on the road. EVs we have now are a good start, but I think the first big step is a LFP-chemistry 100 mile range PHEV with a compact range extension motor (like that "inside out rotary" patent or a small atkinson-cycle generator, or whatever Mazda comes up since they're going to take a swing at a wankel range extender). Then when solid state, Li-S or whatever hits the market, we switch to those.

ct0 5y ago

I thought EV's were already subsidized in some way or another. You know, not everyone has a way to charge a car. Think about street parking, apartment renters or any home without a 200amp electrical service.

NoNameHaveI 5y ago

You're joking right? The lobbyists own this country's government.

AtlasBarfed 5y ago

They pretty much do by buying credits from Tesla, which then (even on this site) a hoard of astroturfers use to say "Tesla is only profitable because it is subsidized by the government!!!". Sigh. Per your comment, those credits are functioning exactly as designed, although I'd like to see them expanded. Actually, I'd like a $10000 rebate (NOT tax credit) on EVs that drops $500-$1000/year. That would encourage adoption and companies to get their models on the road. I would like the same for a 100 mile range PHEV, which would probably be a better use of the battery manufacturing capacity, and easier for more companies to get on the road. EVs we have now are a good start, but I think the first big step is a LFP-chemistry 100 mile range PHEV with a compact range extension motor (like that "inside out rotary" patent or a small atkinson-cycle generator, or whatever Mazda comes up since they're going to take a swing at a wankel range extender). Then when solid state, Li-S or whatever hits the market, we switch to those.