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Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? They are all very close on quality, and IIRC if you don't like the stock camera apps you c

Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? They are all very close on quality, and IIRC if you don't like the stock camera apps you can get a third party app with less opinionated processing. But even so, the whole experience, including the ecosystem, matters so much more to me than the camera. I have a real camera for when it matters that much.

lkxijlewlf 5y ago
> Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? Kinda. I have a 4a because of the camera more or less. It was between that and the iPhone SE 2020. I did kinda wanna switch up to Android (I've gone back and forth over the years. I don't lock myself into any one company's eco.)
- tym0 5y ago
  The 4a Camera app consistently makes the "wrong" choice for me (flat lighting and colours). I wish I knew of an Halide-like for Android.
simion314 5y ago
Probably some people are not heavily plugged into an ecosystem, they need at max 3-5 apps to work and that is enough for them. other sure have laptops,watches, TVs already in the ecosystem, tons of money already spent into apps and media so they are prisoners.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  Even without the ecosystem, it seems like the actual UI experience is different enough that it would be the dominant factor. Every time I switch back and forth between Android and iOS it's like whiplash. They do tend to copy each other heavily, so it's converging, but there are still plenty of behavioral differences.
  - MiddleEndian 5y ago
    As someone who dislikes both iOS and Android, I chose my phone based on other factors. I chose my phone due to its size and form. In their case, they would be choosing it based on photography.
  - wincy 5y ago
    My cousin switches every few years and it seems like it’s always a crapshoot of whether she’ll have iOS or Android. Drives my phone crazy as it’ll try to send her iMessages and failover to texts for months.
saiya-jin 5y ago
I did, and went with S22 ultra at the end. Long term nikon full frame shooter. I must say both iphone 13 pro max and this are very formidable devices, each has their strengths and weaknesses, took quite a bit of time to decide. I like how S22 feels like a real computer where I can plug my variometer for paragliding via OTG cable, side load apps of my own choice, use normal charging cables like rest of the universe, upload/download files straight from filesystyem without any installed apps and so on. I am getting into whole S pen experience, its pretty nice for sketching or precise mouse-like work ie when editing photos in phone. Apple notch making it look like some basic 2015 chinese phone is just a cherry on the top. As for cameras, 10x physical zoom is not something to neglect, Apple doesn't have anything to offer there. In past 2 weeks I have it, I've shot quite a lot of otherwise impossible kids, family, nature, animals etc. pics with this zoom. That was my main motivation for new phone - a camera for pictures I always have with me, unlike dedicated camera (2.5kg being just a detail, I didn't mind carrying it but I didn't have it a lot of casual times where great situation happened). Another reason that swayed me - with this upgrade I wanted to improve headphones, priority being quality of sounds and battery life to play my collection of flacs. Airpods Pro were just not cutting it, went with Sennheiser momentum 2. You can't connect iphone and Senns via some above-default bluetooth protocol, they support aptX, Apple has their own solution and nothing else. Rest of cameras are +-comparable, sometimes one wins other times the other. BUT - this over-processing that Apple is famous for is something I don't like, as long term DSLR shooter I 'have it in the eye' how processing should look like. A lot of people got so used to it though, they consider ie full frame pictures with normal level of processing bland and artificial compared to Apple's.
ta8903 5y ago
Have you looked at the marketing material for any of those phones (or any modern flagship for that matter)? Over half of it focuses on the various cameras they have and their specs/features.
Auracle 5y ago
My wife is thinking of upgrading her iPhone for better snapshots of our baby. I’m a professional photographer. Hell, she is too - she second shoots at my weddings. We have the best cameras and lenses money can buy…but they aren’t in her pocket when our baby does something cute.
vishnugupta 5y ago
> Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? iPhone 13 launch marketing/advertisement was almost entirely about camera. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfgdkcIUxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfgdkcIUxw
npteljes 5y ago
>Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? We did. My wife wanted an Iphone because it takes great pictures, and I got an S9 because I can tinker with the ROM.
- wincy 5y ago
  Wow I can’t imagine what a pain it would be for one of us to have an android phone and the other iOS. We use the react emojis for each other constantly, I send videos to my wife via airdrop, and all of our images are synced and shared via iCloud. Also my wife can seamlessly FaceTime me wherever I am to help calm a grumpy toddler who “wants daddy”. I guess I sound like I’ve really drank the iKoolaid but I feel like we’d just constantly be frustrated if we weren’t using the same device family.
  - npteljes 5y ago
    I like to tinker with self-hosting so usually if we need something, I set it up. We use rocketchat for IM, images are synced manually to a samba share on the network, and if we wanted to video chat (not really our style though) we could use skype or I could host Element or something. It's really not much of a pain, but also it's not like I don't see the appeal of living in a world where the defaults are there and they're usable.
izacus 5y ago
Yes, camera quality is one of the main drivers of differentiation between device choice in many markets. Interestingly, it's usually "more processing the better".

lkxijlewlf 5y ago

> Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? Kinda. I have a 4a because of the camera more or less. It was between that and the iPhone SE 2020. I did kinda wanna switch up to Android (I've gone back and forth over the years. I don't lock myself into any one company's eco.)

tym0 5y ago
The 4a Camera app consistently makes the "wrong" choice for me (flat lighting and colours). I wish I knew of an Halide-like for Android.

simion314 5y ago

Probably some people are not heavily plugged into an ecosystem, they need at max 3-5 apps to work and that is enough for them. other sure have laptops,watches, TVs already in the ecosystem, tons of money already spent into apps and media so they are prisoners.

rootusrootus 5y ago
Even without the ecosystem, it seems like the actual UI experience is different enough that it would be the dominant factor. Every time I switch back and forth between Android and iOS it's like whiplash. They do tend to copy each other heavily, so it's converging, but there are still plenty of behavioral differences.
- MiddleEndian 5y ago
  As someone who dislikes both iOS and Android, I chose my phone based on other factors. I chose my phone due to its size and form. In their case, they would be choosing it based on photography.
- wincy 5y ago
  My cousin switches every few years and it seems like it’s always a crapshoot of whether she’ll have iOS or Android. Drives my phone crazy as it’ll try to send her iMessages and failover to texts for months.

saiya-jin 5y ago

I did, and went with S22 ultra at the end. Long term nikon full frame shooter. I must say both iphone 13 pro max and this are very formidable devices, each has their strengths and weaknesses, took quite a bit of time to decide. I like how S22 feels like a real computer where I can plug my variometer for paragliding via OTG cable, side load apps of my own choice, use normal charging cables like rest of the universe, upload/download files straight from filesystyem without any installed apps and so on. I am getting into whole S pen experience, its pretty nice for sketching or precise mouse-like work ie when editing photos in phone. Apple notch making it look like some basic 2015 chinese phone is just a cherry on the top. As for cameras, 10x physical zoom is not something to neglect, Apple doesn't have anything to offer there. In past 2 weeks I have it, I've shot quite a lot of otherwise impossible kids, family, nature, animals etc. pics with this zoom. That was my main motivation for new phone - a camera for pictures I always have with me, unlike dedicated camera (2.5kg being just a detail, I didn't mind carrying it but I didn't have it a lot of casual times where great situation happened). Another reason that swayed me - with this upgrade I wanted to improve headphones, priority being quality of sounds and battery life to play my collection of flacs. Airpods Pro were just not cutting it, went with Sennheiser momentum 2. You can't connect iphone and Senns via some above-default bluetooth protocol, they support aptX, Apple has their own solution and nothing else. Rest of cameras are +-comparable, sometimes one wins other times the other. BUT - this over-processing that Apple is famous for is something I don't like, as long term DSLR shooter I 'have it in the eye' how processing should look like. A lot of people got so used to it though, they consider ie full frame pictures with normal level of processing bland and artificial compared to Apple's.

ta8903 5y ago

Have you looked at the marketing material for any of those phones (or any modern flagship for that matter)? Over half of it focuses on the various cameras they have and their specs/features.

Auracle 5y ago

My wife is thinking of upgrading her iPhone for better snapshots of our baby. I’m a professional photographer. Hell, she is too - she second shoots at my weddings. We have the best cameras and lenses money can buy…but they aren’t in her pocket when our baby does something cute.

vishnugupta 5y ago

> Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? iPhone 13 launch marketing/advertisement was almost entirely about camera. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfgdkcIUxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfgdkcIUxw

npteljes 5y ago

>Do people really choose between Android and iOS based on the camera? We did. My wife wanted an Iphone because it takes great pictures, and I got an S9 because I can tinker with the ROM.

wincy 5y ago
Wow I can’t imagine what a pain it would be for one of us to have an android phone and the other iOS. We use the react emojis for each other constantly, I send videos to my wife via airdrop, and all of our images are synced and shared via iCloud. Also my wife can seamlessly FaceTime me wherever I am to help calm a grumpy toddler who “wants daddy”. I guess I sound like I’ve really drank the iKoolaid but I feel like we’d just constantly be frustrated if we weren’t using the same device family.
- npteljes 5y ago
  I like to tinker with self-hosting so usually if we need something, I set it up. We use rocketchat for IM, images are synced manually to a samba share on the network, and if we wanted to video chat (not really our style though) we could use skype or I could host Element or something. It's really not much of a pain, but also it's not like I don't see the appeal of living in a world where the defaults are there and they're usable.

izacus 5y ago

Yes, camera quality is one of the main drivers of differentiation between device choice in many markets. Interestingly, it's usually "more processing the better".