> The traditional world looks at the world as a hierarchy of being and a hierarchy of meaning. <sarcasm> Cool cool cool... Back to the topic of that juju which

> The traditional world looks at the world as a hierarchy of being and a hierarchy of meaning. <sarcasm> Cool cool cool... Back to the topic of that juju which makes you stab proof. I'm sure you don't mind if I stab you while you hold on to it. Would that be okay with the hierarchy of being and the hierarchy of meaning? Not proving anything mind you, i would never ever do anything as violent as trying to force my materialist worldview on you. </sarcasm> That being said probably juju which is supposed to bring you diffuse and probabilistic benefit is dime a dozen, while ones bringing you easy to verify, concrete, and immediate benefits are harder to find. Such is life I guess. :)