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If NATO were genuinely a threat to Russia, I'd expect NATO jets to "stray" into Russian airspace as often as the Russian planes stray into UK airspace north of
by DrBazza 5y ago
If NATO were genuinely a threat to Russia, I'd expect NATO jets to "stray" into Russian airspace as often as the Russian planes stray into UK airspace north of Scotland, or China flies over Taiwan.
NATO doesn't do this. Or at least if it does, it's remarkably poorly reported by some of the press in the UK that I would expect to gleefully report if it were true.
Also, if you want 'second order consequences' take a moment to think about the brain drain of many under-30 Russians (I'm picking an arbitrary age), that have grown up with the Internet and western food. They're leaving as we type.
Then, there's the demographic problem. There are fewer young men in Russia.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/03/russia-demography-birthrate-decline-ukraine/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/03/russia-demography-birth...
Even fewer due to COVID, and now due to the events of the last few weeks. And who knows how many Russian teens and 20-somethings will be dead in a month or two?
How do you "protect yourself" from perceived invasion from the west with fewer and fewer people in the army? Bigger weapons? I hope not.
Russia are losing their youth on two fronts.
Well done Putin, you've ruined your country for decades.
- icu 5y agoI completely agree about the Russian brain drain issue, and about the extreme cost of sending young Russian men (many of whom are only sons) off to die. All of it, on all sides, is a huge waste and tragedy. However, with regards to your statement about overt military operations threatening Russia, have you considered all the covert stuff? The CIA have been running operations in Ukraine for a long time and I think it would be fair to say that the Orange Revolution was helped along by Western intelligence agencies.
- DrBazza 5y agoThat's a good point.
- robocat 5y ago> There are fewer young men in Russia. Even fewer due to COVID Quite possibly the economy could be better after COVID? Something that mostly kills off older retirees could reduce economic drain (although it depends on lots of factors). “Covid-19 caused total life expectancy in Russia to fall by 2.32 years in 2020” - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/03/covid-has-caused-28m-years-of-life-to-be-lost-study-finds https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/03/covid-has-caus...