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Unfortunately, regardless of any philosophy on morality, it is simply unrealistic to expect the citizens of a nation being invaded - a word applicable here with

Unfortunately, regardless of any philosophy on morality, it is simply unrealistic to expect the citizens of a nation being invaded - a word applicable here without even the merest qualification - to not call for the violent repulsion of the invader, loudly and in great numbers, regardless of how "good" or "bad" the invader's justification is. Edit: To reconnect my point to the topic - the weight of millions of simultaneous lamentations under such a real, physical attack is simply heavier than the weight of a content policy of a media designed for people to talk to each other. It would be difficult, both morally and practically, to not make an exception in this case. Content policies can not be immutable, and should not be.

VictorPath 5y ago
Then the citizens of Donetsk should be able to call for violence against the Ukranians invading their country.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
  How can Ukraine invade their own country?
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  Let me know when the Ukranian army crosses the frontier of the breakaway region. Until then, "the Ukranians invading their country" is rhetoric that is unconnected to reality.
  - NoGravitas 5y ago
    Okay, they've just been shelling it for the last 8 years. That's totally fine until someone puts a foot over.
    - happytoexplain 5y ago
      I think you're letting emotions migrate the topic. The implication is not that it is "fine". War is never "fine", no matter how "just". The question is that of when it becomes impossible or undesirable to police "calls for violence", which is very broad. Ownership of that area is much more controversial than the ownership of Ukraine, and the actions taken are much less dramatic. I.e. attempting to prevent separatism is much less black and white than responding to a full blown foreign invasion. However, I understand there are people who disagree with what I think is "obvious".
- happytoexplain 5y ago
  Your premise isn't really comparable, not least due to its unrealism. However, generically, if Ukraine invades somebody's country under similar circumstances to Russia's, then yes, absolutely.
pessimizer 5y ago
But for some reason, ISIS accounts get banned. ISIS was the result of the de-Sunnification process of the Iraqi government and military after an invasion of Iraq on false pretenses. Shouldn't it have been unrealistic to have expectations of their behavior on these platforms?

VictorPath 5y ago

Then the citizens of Donetsk should be able to call for violence against the Ukranians invading their country.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
How can Ukraine invade their own country?
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Let me know when the Ukranian army crosses the frontier of the breakaway region. Until then, "the Ukranians invading their country" is rhetoric that is unconnected to reality.
- NoGravitas 5y ago
  Okay, they've just been shelling it for the last 8 years. That's totally fine until someone puts a foot over.
  - happytoexplain 5y ago
    I think you're letting emotions migrate the topic. The implication is not that it is "fine". War is never "fine", no matter how "just". The question is that of when it becomes impossible or undesirable to police "calls for violence", which is very broad. Ownership of that area is much more controversial than the ownership of Ukraine, and the actions taken are much less dramatic. I.e. attempting to prevent separatism is much less black and white than responding to a full blown foreign invasion. However, I understand there are people who disagree with what I think is "obvious".
happytoexplain 5y ago
Your premise isn't really comparable, not least due to its unrealism. However, generically, if Ukraine invades somebody's country under similar circumstances to Russia's, then yes, absolutely.

pessimizer 5y ago

But for some reason, ISIS accounts get banned. ISIS was the result of the de-Sunnification process of the Iraqi government and military after an invasion of Iraq on false pretenses. Shouldn't it have been unrealistic to have expectations of their behavior on these platforms?