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Dismissing cookie notices is just a sign of companies outsourcing the cost of being privacy friendly. They could just run their own analytics tool and you woul

Dismissing cookie notices is just a sign of companies outsourcing the cost of being privacy friendly. They could just run their own analytics tool and you wouldn't need any notice at all for basic visitor counting. But everybody is craving for that shiny numbers from Google Analytics (for mysterious reasons _perfectly_ integrated into all other Google tools), easy ad money and whatever metric marketing wants to see this month.

lbriner 5y ago
Please don't make glib statements about what people do and don't want. If you don't want the metrics that you get from something like Google then that's fine but a lot of companies, ourselves included, find the insight massively valuable when we are trying to work out which parts of our product are or aren't working properly. Sure, we could roll our own but that creates its own problems and doesn't exempt you from cookies notices at all.
- martin_a 5y ago
  > doesn't exempt you from cookies notices at all. Sorry to tell you, but it actually does. Cookie notices are only necessary when you are transferring data to third-parties and there's no technical reason for that. Selling my personal data to some analytics company, and you have chosen to do exactly that, is not technically neccessary but a very deliberately made decision by someone.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  > If you don't want the metrics that you get from something like Google then that's fine but a lot of companies, ourselves included, find the insight massively valuable when we are trying to work out which parts of our product are or aren't working properly. As a user, I don't want to be spied on so that you can "improve" your product aka make it more addictive or refine your dark patterns. I definitely don't want Google spying on me to help you achieve that goal either. The GDPR making it harder for you to do this means it's working as intended and I'm very glad to have it as a user.

lbriner 5y ago

Please don't make glib statements about what people do and don't want. If you don't want the metrics that you get from something like Google then that's fine but a lot of companies, ourselves included, find the insight massively valuable when we are trying to work out which parts of our product are or aren't working properly. Sure, we could roll our own but that creates its own problems and doesn't exempt you from cookies notices at all.

martin_a 5y ago
> doesn't exempt you from cookies notices at all. Sorry to tell you, but it actually does. Cookie notices are only necessary when you are transferring data to third-parties and there's no technical reason for that. Selling my personal data to some analytics company, and you have chosen to do exactly that, is not technically neccessary but a very deliberately made decision by someone.
Nextgrid 5y ago
> If you don't want the metrics that you get from something like Google then that's fine but a lot of companies, ourselves included, find the insight massively valuable when we are trying to work out which parts of our product are or aren't working properly. As a user, I don't want to be spied on so that you can "improve" your product aka make it more addictive or refine your dark patterns. I definitely don't want Google spying on me to help you achieve that goal either. The GDPR making it harder for you to do this means it's working as intended and I'm very glad to have it as a user.