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Something tickles me about how the country with reputation for disinformation was so quick to ban Facebook and Instagram. What do they know?

vmception 5y ago
Municipal court cases are never news. A municipal court for a district in Russia is just clickbait.
- vmception 5y ago
  Feel free to correct me if i have it wrong
jonathanstrange 5y ago
Nothing, obviously. Their disinformation campaigns of the past 15 years have failed and the priorities have shifted towards terrorizing and misinforming their own citizens.
- Gupie 5y ago
  Apart from Trump and Brexit.
  - jonathanstrange 5y ago
    I guess you're right, plus a number of far-right phenomena in the EU that were also partly caused and sponsored by Russian campaigns such as the AfD, Pegida, Front National, Lega Nord, etc. I should have said "are failing now."
    - zahllos 5y ago
      I would disagree on brexit. Am British and brexit sentiment predated the campaign by quite some time. Also many people eligible to vote for this and holding such anti EU positions were elderly, so if the Russian influence campaign was entirely online they would all have missed it. Maybe Russia funded some campaigns, not sure. Maybe they were able to sway some voters, again, not sure. But my impression is that there was already a sizeable portion of the population pro brexit. I'd be more inclined to lay this at the feet of Murdoch than Putin.
      - Gupie 5y ago
        I agree that there was already a sizeable portion of the population pro brexit, but it referendum was close, 50% to 48%, and it would not have taken much to push it either way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum#:~:text=Russian%20interference%20in%20the%202016%20Brexit%20referendum%20remains%20unproven%20but,to%20leave%20the%20European%20Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20....
dougmwne 5y ago
It means they know exactly how the game is played and have been playing it for a long, long time.

vmception 5y ago

Municipal court cases are never news. A municipal court for a district in Russia is just clickbait.

vmception 5y ago
Feel free to correct me if i have it wrong

jonathanstrange 5y ago

Nothing, obviously. Their disinformation campaigns of the past 15 years have failed and the priorities have shifted towards terrorizing and misinforming their own citizens.

Gupie 5y ago
Apart from Trump and Brexit.
- jonathanstrange 5y ago
  I guess you're right, plus a number of far-right phenomena in the EU that were also partly caused and sponsored by Russian campaigns such as the AfD, Pegida, Front National, Lega Nord, etc. I should have said "are failing now."
  - zahllos 5y ago
    I would disagree on brexit. Am British and brexit sentiment predated the campaign by quite some time. Also many people eligible to vote for this and holding such anti EU positions were elderly, so if the Russian influence campaign was entirely online they would all have missed it. Maybe Russia funded some campaigns, not sure. Maybe they were able to sway some voters, again, not sure. But my impression is that there was already a sizeable portion of the population pro brexit. I'd be more inclined to lay this at the feet of Murdoch than Putin.
    - Gupie 5y ago
      I agree that there was already a sizeable portion of the population pro brexit, but it referendum was close, 50% to 48%, and it would not have taken much to push it either way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum#:~:text=Russian%20interference%20in%20the%202016%20Brexit%20referendum%20remains%20unproven%20but,to%20leave%20the%20European%20Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20....

dougmwne 5y ago

It means they know exactly how the game is played and have been playing it for a long, long time.