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There aren’t any, the market for native Mac development is too small to support a good published book. You will be spending inordinate amounts of time in the D

There aren’t any, the market for native Mac development is too small to support a good published book. You will be spending inordinate amounts of time in the Documentation Archive reading still applicable (and well written) docs, on S/O reading the ~3 threads that relate to your issue, blog posts from ~2010 and a whole lot of time searching specific APIs w/ GH code search to see how a repo from 2014 used it. And you’ll be alone in time and space if you’re not at a co while doing it. Web developers are far more common, far cheaper, and far better supported by the ecosystem, you can literally just plug and play them entirely unlike eg iOS developers -> AppKit. If this is a personal thing, have fun it’s very rewarding. If this is business/career, either learn Mandarin or turn around now, there is no hope or future here.

surajs 5y ago
armadsen 5y ago
The funny thing is that when I first brought home a book on Cocoa programming in the mid-2000s, my dad (also a programmer) saw it and gave me almost an identical line to your last sentence. He said it was a waste of time, that I'd never make money doing it, and the market for Mac developers was tiny. I've been doing Mac (and sometimes iOS) development almost ever since and as of right now make almost 2x my dad's career-high salary. That tiny market has treated me very well.
- finiteseries 5y ago
  Every single Mac focused developer I’m aware of started pre or around 2010 as well, including me, for a reason. Riding a peak in a self admitted niche market all the way down and then recommending it to others as you yourself exit your career isn’t evidence, it’s irresponsible. The simple fact you had a book on Cocoa programming written in the past decade (and official programming guides, offline/online discussion groups, WWDCs with more than a handful of events) should tell you something about the relative difference in the market since then.

surajs 5y ago

armadsen 5y ago

The funny thing is that when I first brought home a book on Cocoa programming in the mid-2000s, my dad (also a programmer) saw it and gave me almost an identical line to your last sentence. He said it was a waste of time, that I'd never make money doing it, and the market for Mac developers was tiny. I've been doing Mac (and sometimes iOS) development almost ever since and as of right now make almost 2x my dad's career-high salary. That tiny market has treated me very well.

finiteseries 5y ago
Every single Mac focused developer I’m aware of started pre or around 2010 as well, including me, for a reason. Riding a peak in a self admitted niche market all the way down and then recommending it to others as you yourself exit your career isn’t evidence, it’s irresponsible. The simple fact you had a book on Cocoa programming written in the past decade (and official programming guides, offline/online discussion groups, WWDCs with more than a handful of events) should tell you something about the relative difference in the market since then.