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Agree with you. But in my case I use a MBP as a desktop 80% of the time so wanted a zero hassle monitor that will charge my MBP and take over some of the ancill

by hughrr 5y ago

Agree with you. But in my case I use a MBP as a desktop 80% of the time so wanted a zero hassle monitor that will charge my MBP and take over some of the ancillary functions built into the laptop. It does that perfectly so I bought one and I love it already. The price is high but it's not unreasonable for the overall quality and it comes with decent service and support unlike all other vendors in the UK which hire third party repairers who are hell to deal with. Edit: really interested to see a teardown of this display appear. Not sure if anyone will do one though :(

mschuster91 5y ago
> Agree with you. But in my case I use a MBP as a desktop 80% of the time so wanted a zero hassle monitor that will charge my MBP and take over some of the ancillary functions built into the laptop. It does that perfectly so I bought one and I love it already. Sounds like the old Apple Thunderbolt Display... which is built a lot simpler than the new model. Basically it's nothing more [1] than a PSU and a TB controller exposing eDP to the panel and PCI Express to deal with network, firewire, USB and audio. Dead simple. The new one just reeks of needless over-engineering, similar to the Lightning-to-HDMI adapter [2]. Why the fuck does a monitor need an embedded OS?! > The price is high but it's not unreasonable for the overall quality and it comes with decent service and support unlike all other vendors in the UK which hire third party repairers who are hell to deal with. Oh yeah, that's a scourge on the industry and not exclusive to the UK. I had the "pleasure" of dealing with a carrier-bought Samsung tablet which as it turns out had a broken screen which made its bootloader refuse to boot. At the last second I read the T&C of the repair shop the carrier had contracted with, which stated that device erasure was mandatory which also meant I'd lose all content on the encrypted SD card. Had them bail out on literally the last second and send them back the device, so I could do the repair myself - at my own expense, to add insult to injury. [1]: https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Thunderbolt+Display+Teardown/6525 https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Thunderbolt+Display+Tea... [2]: https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/accessories/apple-lightning-av-adapter-teardown-reveals-arm-soc-256mb-ram/ https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/accessories/apple-lightning-av...
- hughrr 5y ago
  I had one and abandoned it the moment I got a Retina MBP because I couldn't bare to stare at 1440p screens any more. I paid £899 for it when it came out. That's £1165 now with inflation. Applying that to the Studio Display now, I paid £330 more for the Studio Display, gain a charger, 5k screen, decent speaker system, decent webcam and a warranty. And it looks really nice sitting in front of me. I'm really not bothered. As for the OS, I don't care if it's got an imp with a paintbrush drawing the pixels on the inside of the glass as long as it works.
  - mschuster91 5y ago
    > I had one and abandoned it the moment I got a Retina MBP because I couldn't bare to stare at 1440p screens any more. Apple laptops are like heroin for eyes: experience it once and you can't go back. Just this weekend my s/o needed a new laptop - unfortunately, she's more or less locked into the Windows world, and needs some serious-ish GPU offering. Apple was unfortunately out of the question because the M1 can't run Windows... so we looked around, and there was literally no offer that had an aluminium case, a decent GPU/CPU/RAM combo and a screen with a better resolution than 1080p at a reasonable price! We settled on an Acer Swift X in the end and made the compromise at the display.
- dbbk 5y ago
  > Why the fuck does a monitor need an embedded OS?! They've explained this. It's so that features like Center Stage and spatial audio can work when connected to Macs that don't have Apple Silicon. Also to run the camera's ISP.
- holsta 5y ago
  > Why the fuck does a monitor need an embedded OS?! I doubt this is new. The Dell U2718Q I am using right now can "crash" so that video input still works but none of the buttons do until I yank the power cord and plug it back in.

by hughrr 5y ago

mschuster91 5y ago

> Agree with you. But in my case I use a MBP as a desktop 80% of the time so wanted a zero hassle monitor that will charge my MBP and take over some of the ancillary functions built into the laptop. It does that perfectly so I bought one and I love it already. Sounds like the old Apple Thunderbolt Display... which is built a lot simpler than the new model. Basically it's nothing more [1] than a PSU and a TB controller exposing eDP to the panel and PCI Express to deal with network, firewire, USB and audio. Dead simple. The new one just reeks of needless over-engineering, similar to the Lightning-to-HDMI adapter [2]. Why the fuck does a monitor need an embedded OS?! > The price is high but it's not unreasonable for the overall quality and it comes with decent service and support unlike all other vendors in the UK which hire third party repairers who are hell to deal with. Oh yeah, that's a scourge on the industry and not exclusive to the UK. I had the "pleasure" of dealing with a carrier-bought Samsung tablet which as it turns out had a broken screen which made its bootloader refuse to boot. At the last second I read the T&C of the repair shop the carrier had contracted with, which stated that device erasure was mandatory which also meant I'd lose all content on the encrypted SD card. Had them bail out on literally the last second and send them back the device, so I could do the repair myself - at my own expense, to add insult to injury. [1]: https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Thunderbolt+Display+Teardown/6525 https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+Thunderbolt+Display+Tea... [2]: https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/accessories/apple-lightning-av-adapter-teardown-reveals-arm-soc-256mb-ram/ https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/accessories/apple-lightning-av...

hughrr 5y ago
I had one and abandoned it the moment I got a Retina MBP because I couldn't bare to stare at 1440p screens any more. I paid £899 for it when it came out. That's £1165 now with inflation. Applying that to the Studio Display now, I paid £330 more for the Studio Display, gain a charger, 5k screen, decent speaker system, decent webcam and a warranty. And it looks really nice sitting in front of me. I'm really not bothered. As for the OS, I don't care if it's got an imp with a paintbrush drawing the pixels on the inside of the glass as long as it works.
- mschuster91 5y ago
  > I had one and abandoned it the moment I got a Retina MBP because I couldn't bare to stare at 1440p screens any more. Apple laptops are like heroin for eyes: experience it once and you can't go back. Just this weekend my s/o needed a new laptop - unfortunately, she's more or less locked into the Windows world, and needs some serious-ish GPU offering. Apple was unfortunately out of the question because the M1 can't run Windows... so we looked around, and there was literally no offer that had an aluminium case, a decent GPU/CPU/RAM combo and a screen with a better resolution than 1080p at a reasonable price! We settled on an Acer Swift X in the end and made the compromise at the display.
dbbk 5y ago
> Why the fuck does a monitor need an embedded OS?! They've explained this. It's so that features like Center Stage and spatial audio can work when connected to Macs that don't have Apple Silicon. Also to run the camera's ISP.
holsta 5y ago
> Why the fuck does a monitor need an embedded OS?! I doubt this is new. The Dell U2718Q I am using right now can "crash" so that video input still works but none of the buttons do until I yank the power cord and plug it back in.