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> Ethereum has made a handful of white men unfathomably rich, pumped pollutants into the air, and emerged as a vehicle for tax evasion, money laundering, and mi

> Ethereum has made a handful of white men unfathomably rich, pumped pollutants into the air, and emerged as a vehicle for tax evasion, money laundering, and mind-boggling scams Expected nothing less from Time...

Machado117 5y ago
Why is a modern news publication making such remark when we vilify the same thing when directed at any other group of people?
InsaneOstrich 5y ago
It's nice to see truth in journalism every once in awhile
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Everyone has their truth, they should try reporting facts instead of race-baiting for clicks.
  - newswasboring 5y ago
    This is a fact though isn't it? I am anti-crypto for several reasons but even the blind can see that there isn't much diversity in the space.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      No it's a race-baiting vague assertion with no statistic, study, or source of any kind attached to it.
      - newswasboring 5y ago
        In hindi there is a saying "प्रत्यक्ष को प्रमाण की आवश्यकता नहीं होती|" ((bad) translation: The apparent does not require proof"). Look at any of the major figures in crypto, I don't see many "non white guy" people in there. Come on man, not everything requires us to do a study.
        hunterb123 5y ago
        In journalism there is a saying, source your claims. You don't need a study, but you need some sort of base to the claim. Your anecdote tells us nothing, I know many non-whites who got rich from crypto. Not everything requires a study, but when writing an article you should back your click/race-bait claims up with facts if you just HAVE to put them in there. Maybe just leave it out since it wasn't relevant.
        newswasboring 5y ago
        I'm sorry but I don't think people need to cite sources in every sentence for every word. You are not going to ask them to cite the dictionary for each word, would you? So there is a balance, and I think we are just conflicted on where the balance should land. I think this problem is pretty apparent and you don't. What I can't figure out is are you just rules lawyering at this point or do you actually believe its not a problem.
        hunterb123 5y ago
        > I'm sorry but I don't think people need to cite sources in every sentence for every word. Journalists should cite every claim they make, even if it's tacked on and only a sentence long. Especially if it's a bold race-baiting one. > What I can't figure out is are you just rules lawyering at this point or do you actually believe its not a problem. It's a baseless racist assertion that can be taken out without detracting from the article. MSM loves to race bait. Race relations are rough enough, it's irresponsible. But when you call them out "oh they don't need to source every sentence". Ok. > You are not going to ask them to cite the dictionary for each word, would you? A word is not a claim, that is ridiculous. Noone is disputing the word "white" they are disputing that bitcoin only made a handful of whites richer.
kache_ 5y ago
- newacc9 5y ago
  Its always trendy to throw shade at white people.
- otterley 5y ago
  Even if you’ve made millions gambling on cryptocurrency, you are likely not among the “unfathomably rich” group mentioned here. And if you look at the crypto-wealth-to-owner-race data we know so far, it should become quite clear that white men hold the vast majority of the overall stake. So, same old story, even though (to many promoters) crypto was going to make the world a better, fairer, less corrupt, and more egalitarian place. Have some, or even many, non-whites like yourself earned some wealth resulting from crypto gambling? Sure. But that’s not the point they’re making.
  - kache_ 5y ago
    >Non whites like you couldn't possibly be interested in cool technology early on did you just call me a non-white? it almost sounds derogatory in the context of your post. I guess since I'm just a "Non-white", my only interaction with crypto could have been through a lens of gambling, since I'm so unsophisticated and weak in comparison to white people (in your apparent belief). Seriously, look at the tone of your posts, jfc. All of you morally superior self hating whites are the same, at work, on this shitty website, and in SV tech in general. At the very basal level, you actually look down on non whites, you think we're uncapable in comparison. The only respite I get from your type of racism is on places like 4chan, ironically, the most racist place on the internet. But at least there's some fucking moral clarity there very nice of you to assume it was crypto gambling, rather than an academic interest in cryptography. I'm a crypto punk, through and through, in the classical "I used to go on sketchy IRCs as a kid" sense. I was telling people at college parties to buy bitcoin because I was a CS student, a long fucking time ago. And crypto isn't about some unclear moral platitude that you have about some "egalitarian" paradise. It's about telling the government to go fuck themselves and having the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want to, without anyone knowing. Cryptocurrency was about buying adderall on the darknet, not "helping disadvantaged non-whites" finally, the people who's faces are on the list of "crypto rich" are the people who failed. The real crypto rich people aren't known by anyone, because they know what they're doing
otterley 5y ago
Is it wrong?
- emerged 5y ago
  Sorry are you suggesting that we should all in general say anything race related so long as we don’t think it’s wrong? Or just against whites?
  - otterley 5y ago
    As I've opined elsewhere in this thread, it's not so much about race in and of itself, as it is the same old story about rich white men getting richer despite people insisting "this time it's going to be different" about the benefits of crypto to society. It's important to read between the lines.
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M1rco 5y ago
Honestly I don't get it, why something like this is allowed to say. Sounds kind of spreading hate. Especially, I would bet the statement is false.
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- fmvab 5y ago
  Which part is false?
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    Wrong way, which part supported the claim it was true? GP can't prove a negative. It's on the journalist to source their assertions.
    - fmvab 5y ago
      I agree it's on the journalist -- just wondering which statement is most suspected to be untrue.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        We don't know the skin colors of all the crypto enthusiasts that got in early. I personally know a few dozen people who used it in Brazil, Portugal, Japan, and India early on. I'd say I know more non-whites than whites who used it. That's just an anecdote, but it's more information than the racist journalist had.

Machado117 5y ago

Why is a modern news publication making such remark when we vilify the same thing when directed at any other group of people?

InsaneOstrich 5y ago

It's nice to see truth in journalism every once in awhile

hunterb123 5y ago
Everyone has their truth, they should try reporting facts instead of race-baiting for clicks.
- newswasboring 5y ago
  This is a fact though isn't it? I am anti-crypto for several reasons but even the blind can see that there isn't much diversity in the space.
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    No it's a race-baiting vague assertion with no statistic, study, or source of any kind attached to it.
    - newswasboring 5y ago
      In hindi there is a saying "प्रत्यक्ष को प्रमाण की आवश्यकता नहीं होती|" ((bad) translation: The apparent does not require proof"). Look at any of the major figures in crypto, I don't see many "non white guy" people in there. Come on man, not everything requires us to do a study.
      - hunterb123 5y ago
        In journalism there is a saying, source your claims. You don't need a study, but you need some sort of base to the claim. Your anecdote tells us nothing, I know many non-whites who got rich from crypto. Not everything requires a study, but when writing an article you should back your click/race-bait claims up with facts if you just HAVE to put them in there. Maybe just leave it out since it wasn't relevant.
        newswasboring 5y ago
        I'm sorry but I don't think people need to cite sources in every sentence for every word. You are not going to ask them to cite the dictionary for each word, would you? So there is a balance, and I think we are just conflicted on where the balance should land. I think this problem is pretty apparent and you don't. What I can't figure out is are you just rules lawyering at this point or do you actually believe its not a problem.
        hunterb123 5y ago
        > I'm sorry but I don't think people need to cite sources in every sentence for every word. Journalists should cite every claim they make, even if it's tacked on and only a sentence long. Especially if it's a bold race-baiting one. > What I can't figure out is are you just rules lawyering at this point or do you actually believe its not a problem. It's a baseless racist assertion that can be taken out without detracting from the article. MSM loves to race bait. Race relations are rough enough, it's irresponsible. But when you call them out "oh they don't need to source every sentence". Ok. > You are not going to ask them to cite the dictionary for each word, would you? A word is not a claim, that is ridiculous. Noone is disputing the word "white" they are disputing that bitcoin only made a handful of whites richer.

kache_ 5y ago

newacc9 5y ago
Its always trendy to throw shade at white people.
otterley 5y ago
Even if you’ve made millions gambling on cryptocurrency, you are likely not among the “unfathomably rich” group mentioned here. And if you look at the crypto-wealth-to-owner-race data we know so far, it should become quite clear that white men hold the vast majority of the overall stake. So, same old story, even though (to many promoters) crypto was going to make the world a better, fairer, less corrupt, and more egalitarian place. Have some, or even many, non-whites like yourself earned some wealth resulting from crypto gambling? Sure. But that’s not the point they’re making.
- kache_ 5y ago
  >Non whites like you couldn't possibly be interested in cool technology early on did you just call me a non-white? it almost sounds derogatory in the context of your post. I guess since I'm just a "Non-white", my only interaction with crypto could have been through a lens of gambling, since I'm so unsophisticated and weak in comparison to white people (in your apparent belief). Seriously, look at the tone of your posts, jfc. All of you morally superior self hating whites are the same, at work, on this shitty website, and in SV tech in general. At the very basal level, you actually look down on non whites, you think we're uncapable in comparison. The only respite I get from your type of racism is on places like 4chan, ironically, the most racist place on the internet. But at least there's some fucking moral clarity there very nice of you to assume it was crypto gambling, rather than an academic interest in cryptography. I'm a crypto punk, through and through, in the classical "I used to go on sketchy IRCs as a kid" sense. I was telling people at college parties to buy bitcoin because I was a CS student, a long fucking time ago. And crypto isn't about some unclear moral platitude that you have about some "egalitarian" paradise. It's about telling the government to go fuck themselves and having the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want to, without anyone knowing. Cryptocurrency was about buying adderall on the darknet, not "helping disadvantaged non-whites" finally, the people who's faces are on the list of "crypto rich" are the people who failed. The real crypto rich people aren't known by anyone, because they know what they're doing

otterley 5y ago

Is it wrong?

emerged 5y ago
Sorry are you suggesting that we should all in general say anything race related so long as we don’t think it’s wrong? Or just against whites?
- otterley 5y ago
  As I've opined elsewhere in this thread, it's not so much about race in and of itself, as it is the same old story about rich white men getting richer despite people insisting "this time it's going to be different" about the benefits of crypto to society. It's important to read between the lines.

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M1rco 5y ago

Honestly I don't get it, why something like this is allowed to say. Sounds kind of spreading hate. Especially, I would bet the statement is false.

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fmvab 5y ago
Which part is false?
- hunterb123 5y ago
  Wrong way, which part supported the claim it was true? GP can't prove a negative. It's on the journalist to source their assertions.
  - fmvab 5y ago
    I agree it's on the journalist -- just wondering which statement is most suspected to be untrue.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      We don't know the skin colors of all the crypto enthusiasts that got in early. I personally know a few dozen people who used it in Brazil, Portugal, Japan, and India early on. I'd say I know more non-whites than whites who used it. That's just an anecdote, but it's more information than the racist journalist had.