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Windows users need a change in priorities. FTFY. The OS has gone to shit, but people keep right on using it and complaining about how bad it's getting. What is

Windows users need a change in priorities. FTFY. The OS has gone to shit, but people keep right on using it and complaining about how bad it's getting. What is your lame priority for sticking with it? Don't tell me gaming - get a console or VR headset, or steam on Linux. If you're that hung up on one game that doesn't run anywhere else then again you need to change your priorities. If it's using Excel or Word with a bunch of customizations that won't work in LibreOffice, again you need to change your priorities or approach to solving the problems you did that to solve.

canbus 5y ago
Maybe I use it for work? Or because WINE isn't perfect for everything that I need to use, and I don't want to spend hours trying to configure it? What about basic users? They don't care whether they should be using KDE Plasma or a Gnome-based window manager etc - maybe they want something that 'just works'
- phkahler 5y ago
  >> What about basic users? They don't care whether they should be using KDE Plasma or a Gnome-based window manager etc - maybe they want something that 'just works' There are Linux distributions and MacOS that "just work" a LOT better than Windows these days.
Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
> What is your lame priority for sticking with it? Don't tell me gaming - get a console or VR headset, or steam on Linux. Tell me you're not a gamer without telling me you're not a gamer. The desire to play with mouse + keyboard is reason enough to stick with a PC. Wanting to play in 1440p @ 144 fps is another. First-class support for Discord. Steam sales. I could go on and on about reasons to play on PC. Steam on Linux is getting better, and the success of the Steam Deck might convince developers to offer greater Linux support, but it's still not at the level it needs to be. Not to mention this argument completely ignores non-Steam games like League of Legends. It kind of works on Linux...sometimes...and with a lot of configuration and work. Also, the suggestion to just get a VR headset is absurd.
- mattrick 5y ago
  Installing League via Lutris is not that difficult. It's certainly not as idiot-proof as it needs to be, but the average Linux user should be capable of following the relatively simple instructions provided by communities like /r/leagueoflinux. It also runs pretty well, at least for me.
0xffff2 5y ago
>What is your lame priority for sticking with it? Adobe and Autodesk products. >If it's using Excel or Word with a bunch of customizations that won't work in LibreOffice, again you need to change your priorities or approach to solving the problems you did that to solve. Only because MS is hell-bent on destroying their ecosystem. As long as Windows 10 is still receiving security updates, I can keep getting actual work done instead of investing a ton of time into things I care nothing about. I have no interest in developing office/photo/cad software, only in using those things.
efdee 5y ago
Unpopular opinion: I use Windows because it does what I want it to do. Not for lack of knowing alternatives - I've been using Linux on desktops and servers for well over two decades now. I don't really care about the telemetry. For some reason, I don't see the in-UI ads people are complaining about. Yes, sometimes I'm annoyed by it. I'm even more annoyed when I run Linux on desktops. So what? And don't get me started on just how condescending it is for you to be telling people their priorities are wrong because they are not yours. There's nothing wrong with sticking to Windows because that one game you're hung up on doesn't run on Windows. There's nothing wrong with using Excel or Word because that one extension you're using doesn't work or doesn't exist on LibreOffice. Telling people to "get a console or VR headset" for gaming instead of their Windows rig with the latest AAA-games that won't run on Linux (yet)? That's just obnoxiously ignorant.
phendrenad2 5y ago
Nope, not interested in defending my choice in OS to some rando on the internet. Sorry pal, I don't care what you think. I have the right to use whatever OS I choose.

canbus 5y ago

Maybe I use it for work? Or because WINE isn't perfect for everything that I need to use, and I don't want to spend hours trying to configure it? What about basic users? They don't care whether they should be using KDE Plasma or a Gnome-based window manager etc - maybe they want something that 'just works'

phkahler 5y ago
>> What about basic users? They don't care whether they should be using KDE Plasma or a Gnome-based window manager etc - maybe they want something that 'just works' There are Linux distributions and MacOS that "just work" a LOT better than Windows these days.

Sohcahtoa82 5y ago

> What is your lame priority for sticking with it? Don't tell me gaming - get a console or VR headset, or steam on Linux. Tell me you're not a gamer without telling me you're not a gamer. The desire to play with mouse + keyboard is reason enough to stick with a PC. Wanting to play in 1440p @ 144 fps is another. First-class support for Discord. Steam sales. I could go on and on about reasons to play on PC. Steam on Linux is getting better, and the success of the Steam Deck might convince developers to offer greater Linux support, but it's still not at the level it needs to be. Not to mention this argument completely ignores non-Steam games like League of Legends. It kind of works on Linux...sometimes...and with a lot of configuration and work. Also, the suggestion to just get a VR headset is absurd.

mattrick 5y ago
Installing League via Lutris is not that difficult. It's certainly not as idiot-proof as it needs to be, but the average Linux user should be capable of following the relatively simple instructions provided by communities like /r/leagueoflinux. It also runs pretty well, at least for me.

0xffff2 5y ago

>What is your lame priority for sticking with it? Adobe and Autodesk products. >If it's using Excel or Word with a bunch of customizations that won't work in LibreOffice, again you need to change your priorities or approach to solving the problems you did that to solve. Only because MS is hell-bent on destroying their ecosystem. As long as Windows 10 is still receiving security updates, I can keep getting actual work done instead of investing a ton of time into things I care nothing about. I have no interest in developing office/photo/cad software, only in using those things.

efdee 5y ago

Unpopular opinion: I use Windows because it does what I want it to do. Not for lack of knowing alternatives - I've been using Linux on desktops and servers for well over two decades now. I don't really care about the telemetry. For some reason, I don't see the in-UI ads people are complaining about. Yes, sometimes I'm annoyed by it. I'm even more annoyed when I run Linux on desktops. So what? And don't get me started on just how condescending it is for you to be telling people their priorities are wrong because they are not yours. There's nothing wrong with sticking to Windows because that one game you're hung up on doesn't run on Windows. There's nothing wrong with using Excel or Word because that one extension you're using doesn't work or doesn't exist on LibreOffice. Telling people to "get a console or VR headset" for gaming instead of their Windows rig with the latest AAA-games that won't run on Linux (yet)? That's just obnoxiously ignorant.

phendrenad2 5y ago

Nope, not interested in defending my choice in OS to some rando on the internet. Sorry pal, I don't care what you think. I have the right to use whatever OS I choose.