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Shabdle: Wordle in Hindi
- rk06 5y agoNice idea. Few suggestions: 1. Do not count words absent in word list, like original wordle. 2. Put a limit to guesses.
- submagr 5y agoHey good idea!! Promote it on facebook where a lot of old folks are. Or even on whatsapp groups!
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- damenci 5y agoPretty rad!
- HexDecOctBin 5y agoOne tip: don't use words with a sandhi [1] (like today's word). It makes guessing it many more times harder, since you are actually guessing two (or more) words in addition to the joining letters. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhi
- plibither8 5y agoI agree with this suggestion! However, I wonder if it's only because we don't read and write Hindi on a daily basis (as compared to English). Also, I'd just like to say that this take of Hindi Wordle is the best so far - fill in the व्यंजन (consonants) with the स्वर (vowels) supplied as hints.
- captn3m0 5y agoEven then, today’s word is pretty impossible to guess. The Wordle formula is too restrictive for a language like Hindi. Written word-games aren’t a thing in Hindi (like Hangman for eg) but we do have a lot of stuff rhyme based games. Probably other ways to tackle this better.
- plibither8 5y ago> Written word-games aren’t a thing in Hindi but we do have a lot of stuff rhyme based games Interesting observation, and I can't help but wonder if this is loosely correlated to literacy. Since most of these games were developed to pass time by the masses, it only makes sense that they be verbal rather than written.
- mwasiav 5y agoOne of the Bengali versions let go of all the consonant clusters, phala, reph, chandrabindu. You can only build words with letters and karas. https://araf47.itch.io/shobdogoal https://araf47.itch.io/shobdogoal
- peterhil 5y agoI just get black background on the letters in Firefox – I tried all the letters. Does this work in Firefox?
- notRobot 5y agoIf I understand correctly, if what you enter is not a valid word in the dictionary, then it shows all black. Like in wordle, all your guesses need to be valid dictionary words.
- lsrinivas 5y agoThe interface is somewhat non-transparent. I was looking for an 'Enter' and a 'Backspace' key. there's only one. Some clues on how to play might be helpful
- tnsittpsif 5y agoSpeak Hindi all day, but cannot guess a single letter in a 100 tries! Shows how much this language's usage in writing and reading has declined.
- cuteboy19 5y agodevanagari is not meant for such puzzles
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- plibither8 5y agoIn what way is it not meant for puzzles, as opposed to English?
- cuteboy19 5y agoThe Latin Alphabet treats vovels and consonants equally, whereas alphasyllabaries treat vovels differently. It's much easier to construct letter games if all the letters are more or less the same. Add to that the complexity that ligatures bring. Plus the number 9f letters should be small so that games like scrabble are more reasonable
- umeshunni 5y agoDo most Hindi speakers now use the Latin script?
- txtsd 5y agoYes, and it's awful because it isn't standardized. Current generations frequently use only consonants to type out a word and I have no idea how to pronounce them. For example "hai" (pronounced "hey") roughly translates to "is". I literally see kids typing a singular "h" instead.
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- ketanmaheshwari 5y agoJust wanted to note that this is not my creation. I found this randomly linked on Twitter. I tried some but could not find the original creator.
- hdesh 5y agoBased on the source code I think this person is the creator - https://cs.stanford.edu/~kach/ https://cs.stanford.edu/~kach/
- navait 5y agoAs someone learning hindi, I'm looking forward to trying this. Shaabash!
- 1024core 5y agoHindi alphabet, interestingly, is arranged in the order of the part of the mouth that makes the sound. For example, sounds generated at the back of the mouth (like "k", "g", etc.) are listed first, and then you move forward to sounds like "t", "d", and finally sounds involving the lips, like "p", "f", etc. I found this arrangement fascinating. Unlike the jumble of letters that is the Latin alphabet.
- devnull3 5y ago> back of the mouth (like "k", "g", etc.) Note the "g" here is like that in "gum" and not "gin"
- hunter-2 5y agoWow, I have never realized this aspect about Hindi in all these years. Thank you
- lgessler 5y agoThis is referred to as the varṇamālā: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari#Letters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari#Letters Here's a good explanation from Richard Salomon (2003), "Writing Systems of the Indo-Aryan Languages". Note the startling suggestion that this arrangement might have been systematized even before the advent of writing! > In this system, usually referred to as varṇamālā ‘garland of letters’, the characters are divided into vowels (svara) and consonants (vyañjana), and each major set is further divided into subgroups, again on phonetic principles. Thus the vowels are subdivided into simple vowels and diphthongs, each set up as short/long pairs (a-ā-i-ī-u-ū, etc.), while the consonants are classified into the groups vargīya (comprising stops, sparśa, including nasals, anunāsika), antaḥstha (semivowels), and ūṣman (spirants, including ha). Within each consonant subclass, the individual letters are arranged by place and manner of articulation. Thus the largest set, the twenty-five vargīyas, is divided into five sets (varga) of consonants with the same place of articulation, arranged from the back to the front of the mouth: kaṇṭhya ‘velar’, tālavya ‘palatal’, mūrdhanya ‘retroflex’ or ‘cerebral’, dantya ‘dental’ and oṣṭhya ‘labial’. Each varga contains five types of consonants: unvoiced unaspirated, unvoiced aspirated, voiced unaspirated, voiced aspirated and nasal. This system may have originally been developed in a tradition of linguistic analysis before the use of writing, and only subsequently been applied to the written form of language in Brāhmī script. The earliest written specimens of the are found in terracotta plaques of about the second century BC showing a schoolboy’s writing lessons (Salomon 1990:271).
- jvalencia 5y agoAs a non-speaker this would be pretty fun as just a pattern matching game. The only problem is not knowing the words. If non valid next matches grayed out as I went, I would know what constituted a word, without knowing the language.
- yashg 5y agoWhere do I find the answer?
- captn3m0 5y agoSource Code has it. (Also spoilers for the next few days).
- HJain13 5y agoI was thinking about making something like this but was stuck in a mental block that the number of combinations possible would be huge due to concept of _matra_, but pre-populating them was a really nice idea. Kudos to the author!
- perryizgr8 5y agoThe problem is that it is nigh impossible to guess a word that is both valid and incorrect, at least on today's puzzle. It consists of three letters. The first two have a o matra and the last has half ka and an e matra. I literally can't think of any word that satisfies these conditions, except the correct answer. The game won't highlight anything if your guess is not a valid word. So it was impossible for me to get any hint at all. I kept trying random letters and made over a hundred guesses but not a single yellow or green. I think the author should fix this. If a selected letter occurs in any part of the answer, it should be highlighted even if the guess is not a valid word. That's the only reasonable way to make this work with Hindi.
- abdullahkhalids 5y agoHere is the Urdu version https://urdle.chaoticity.com/ https://urdle.chaoticity.com/ I would like someone to do an analysis of quantifying difficulty in terms of alphabet size, word size, and vocabulary size. Because I don't know what the actual difficulty here is vs the English or the Hindi version. That would be first order analysis. Second order analysis would consider the structure of words in different languages, such as how often pairs of letters occur together etc.
- selimthegrim 5y agoI have guessed words like ‘naafiz’ (enforcement) that I suppose didn’t make the Urdle word list cut. I also suspect there is a slight bias towards Arabic and Persian words
- nsenifty 5y agoKannada version - https://wordalla.online/ https://wordalla.online/
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- throwaway091256 5y agoHere's the statistics if you get it right ( I got it in two): 1 guesses: 503 players 2 guesses: 61 players 3 guesses: 17 players 4 guesses: 6 players 5 guesses: 7 players 6+ guesses: 29 players Most people got it in one!
- teluguwordle 5y agoThere is a telugu version here at https://teluguwordle.com/ https://teluguwordle.com/
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