> With gnome, there is no way linux will become mainstream You can ship turd and make it mainstream (as Microsoft has demonstrated time and time again). Shippi

> With gnome, there is no way linux will become mainstream You can ship turd and make it mainstream (as Microsoft has demonstrated time and time again). Shipping computers linux pre-installed is what makes any OS/desktop adopted in large scale, not design/quality. Ubuntu shipped pre-installed on Dell and a bunch of other computers with strong push from Canonical.