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What you showed is not proof. Simply having 1/3 of Harvard admissions being legacy does not disprove that those who go to Ivy Leagues are not intelligent. On t

by mgh2 5y ago

What you showed is not proof. Simply having 1/3 of Harvard admissions being legacy does not disprove that those who go to Ivy Leagues are not intelligent. On the contrary, studies show that IQ is highly genetic (up to 80%). So it is just reasonable for admission offices to accept students based on family ties [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#cite_note-Bouchard2013W-7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ#cite_note-B... There is also a correlation between IQ, general intelligence and SAT scores (a requirement for admissions), despite what the media portrays. FYI: Media is manipulated to create controversy and get views. Scientific studies are not perfect, but has far lower cases due to the peer review process, except for privately funded research [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/#B1-jintelligence-07-00026 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/#B...

wpietri 5y ago
Hah. Look at you cherry-picking the numbers. And apparently not being able to work with them. Legacy admissions aren't used as a proxy for IQ; they're used as a proxy for power and money. Indeed, if the SAT is as good a measure as your non-study says, they could drop legacy admissions entirely. Ask yourself why they don't. But what you're really dodging is the question of how much the very narrow sort characteristic tested by IQ really matters for hiring. I get that you think it's super important. Probably because you see yourself there. But as somebody in the top 1% of IQ scores, I'm telling you it's not a great way to select employees, and in many circumstances it can correlate negatively. You can use it for hiring if you want, and if you work for a competitor, I encourage you to. But I sure won't.
- mgh2 5y ago
  Again, digressing from the initial statement. The only variable in question here is intelligence and its correlation to top schools. Employment is a separate matter, the follow up will be if leadership or management competence (different) is tied to intelligence and elite school attendance.

by mgh2 5y ago

wpietri 5y ago

Hah. Look at you cherry-picking the numbers. And apparently not being able to work with them. Legacy admissions aren't used as a proxy for IQ; they're used as a proxy for power and money. Indeed, if the SAT is as good a measure as your non-study says, they could drop legacy admissions entirely. Ask yourself why they don't. But what you're really dodging is the question of how much the very narrow sort characteristic tested by IQ really matters for hiring. I get that you think it's super important. Probably because you see yourself there. But as somebody in the top 1% of IQ scores, I'm telling you it's not a great way to select employees, and in many circumstances it can correlate negatively. You can use it for hiring if you want, and if you work for a competitor, I encourage you to. But I sure won't.

mgh2 5y ago
Again, digressing from the initial statement. The only variable in question here is intelligence and its correlation to top schools. Employment is a separate matter, the follow up will be if leadership or management competence (different) is tied to intelligence and elite school attendance.