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Quite a lot of people will indeed pay Alice more, especially if her degree is from a brand-name school. You can look up the stats yourself, but they're striking

Quite a lot of people will indeed pay Alice more, especially if her degree is from a brand-name school. You can look up the stats yourself, but they're striking. I personally build my hiring processes to be relatively blind to elite status signals. But interviewees tell me that's pretty unusual. > You can mention having further disagreements without making it a gratuitous diss. I believe it was both accurate and necessary to divert the replies away from the politics. And given that you can't even find the politics, I don't understand why you consider it necessary to appoint yourself my editor.

abecedarius 5y ago
You misread: given common knowledge that Alice and Bob are equally promising, all info considered, do you make them different offers? I'm not at all asking whether Alice with a degree gets better offers than Alice without a degree. We both say she does. At the time we're checking in, Alice's degree is a sunk cost. Your proposal is not: it's extra company investment in the non-degreed after hiring. > can't even find the politics Are you sure you want to emphasize anyone's reading ability in this conversation? And accusing someone of political axe-grinding is a funny way to discourage replies about politics. You could've said, for instance, "Leaving aside any politics here..." That would help engender healthier discourse here on HN.
- wpietri 5y ago
  I didn't misread. I chose not to play your contrived game. I also didn't hire you as my editor, so perhaps you can just apply your advice on comity to your own work and leave me be.
  - abecedarius 5y ago
    So contriving a simplest concrete example, after the abstract explanation apparently failed to get through, is a "contrived game". Comity is not the same as healthy discourse. Objecting to a cheap shot is not hiring myself as your editor. I do agree on ending the thread here.

abecedarius 5y ago

You misread: given common knowledge that Alice and Bob are equally promising, all info considered, do you make them different offers? I'm not at all asking whether Alice with a degree gets better offers than Alice without a degree. We both say she does. At the time we're checking in, Alice's degree is a sunk cost. Your proposal is not: it's extra company investment in the non-degreed after hiring. > can't even find the politics Are you sure you want to emphasize anyone's reading ability in this conversation? And accusing someone of political axe-grinding is a funny way to discourage replies about politics. You could've said, for instance, "Leaving aside any politics here..." That would help engender healthier discourse here on HN.

wpietri 5y ago
I didn't misread. I chose not to play your contrived game. I also didn't hire you as my editor, so perhaps you can just apply your advice on comity to your own work and leave me be.
- abecedarius 5y ago
  So contriving a simplest concrete example, after the abstract explanation apparently failed to get through, is a "contrived game". Comity is not the same as healthy discourse. Objecting to a cheap shot is not hiring myself as your editor. I do agree on ending the thread here.