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Good. Imagine you're a Russian political refugee. You don't want to fly over Russian airspace and have your plane forced to land by Russian MIGs.

tormock 5y ago
> You don't want to fly over Russian airspace and have your plane forced to land by Russian MIGs. Can't they just ask like the US Government does? I.E.: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/07/03/edsn-j03.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/07/03/edsn-j03.html
- danuker 5y ago
  I am appalled. Not very surprised, but still appalled.
  - tormock 5y ago
    It's one of the 3 things that Obama did (or didn't do) that disappointed me the most.
    - Gustomaximus 5y ago
      I assume one of the others was ordering a drone strike on a US citizen with none of the usual due process in finding someone guilty. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-justification-drone-killing-american-citizen-awlaki https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-justificati... This is still shocking to me. And no matter how dangerous this guy was, opening the door on killing your own citizens seems far more dangerous.
      - trasz 5y ago
        How is that different from killing somebody’s else’s citizens?
        objectivetruth 5y ago
        Gustomaximus 5y ago
        From a personal and ethical position, not much. From a legal and societal position, huge.
NullPrefix 5y ago
Has that ever happened before? Belarus, sure, it did happen, but what about Russia?
- regnull 5y ago
  I guess we don't want to wait to find out.
- yongjik 5y ago
  It did happen with Soviet Union in 1978, though it was caused by a pilot error (the plane wasn't supposed to fly over it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_902 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_902 Edit: To clarify, there wasn't any political refugee - I just mean it was forced to land.
Lordarminius 5y ago
>Imagine you're a Russian political refugee. You don't want to fly over Russian airspace and have your plane forced to land by Russian MIGs. Like the US doesn't do the same or worse ?
- int_19h 5y ago
  Not to Russian political refugees.
  - Lordarminius 5y ago
    You are misinformed.

tormock 5y ago

> You don't want to fly over Russian airspace and have your plane forced to land by Russian MIGs. Can't they just ask like the US Government does? I.E.: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/07/03/edsn-j03.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/07/03/edsn-j03.html

danuker 5y ago
I am appalled. Not very surprised, but still appalled.
- tormock 5y ago
  It's one of the 3 things that Obama did (or didn't do) that disappointed me the most.
  - Gustomaximus 5y ago
    I assume one of the others was ordering a drone strike on a US citizen with none of the usual due process in finding someone guilty. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-justification-drone-killing-american-citizen-awlaki https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-justificati... This is still shocking to me. And no matter how dangerous this guy was, opening the door on killing your own citizens seems far more dangerous.
    - trasz 5y ago
      How is that different from killing somebody’s else’s citizens?
      - objectivetruth 5y ago
      - Gustomaximus 5y ago
        From a personal and ethical position, not much. From a legal and societal position, huge.

NullPrefix 5y ago

Has that ever happened before? Belarus, sure, it did happen, but what about Russia?

regnull 5y ago
I guess we don't want to wait to find out.
yongjik 5y ago
It did happen with Soviet Union in 1978, though it was caused by a pilot error (the plane wasn't supposed to fly over it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_902 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_902 Edit: To clarify, there wasn't any political refugee - I just mean it was forced to land.

Lordarminius 5y ago

>Imagine you're a Russian political refugee. You don't want to fly over Russian airspace and have your plane forced to land by Russian MIGs. Like the US doesn't do the same or worse ?

int_19h 5y ago
Not to Russian political refugees.
- Lordarminius 5y ago
  You are misinformed.