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Apple’s App Store charges much more than that for a service that includes only very basic hosting of an application package.

by pavlov 5y ago

humanistbot 5y ago
That is also egregious, but Apple and Google are getting away with it because they have a duopoly over mobile phone app stores. Not so with video hosting.
- hallway_monitor 5y ago
  Isn't it so though? What viable alternatives exist?
  - johnnyanmac 5y ago
    Definitely educate me, but: what is Vimeo doing for a B2B solution that Youtube can't provide? You can provide unlisted videos (and that is something a few pareon users have done). It's odd because Vimeo was most known to me for hosting art portfolios, so seeing it denounce it's "indie" status is bewildering. I assume the advantage comes from providing uncompressed videos with extremely high bitrate. Which is an admittedly extremely niche market.
  - eigen 5y ago
    an alternative is Amazon Video Direct where content providers receive 50% of net revenue. seems like a worse deal than Apple & Google. https://videodirect.amazon.com/home/help?topicId=G202037410&ref_=avd_sup_G202037410 https://videodirect.amazon.com/home/help?topicId=G202037410&...
syshum 5y ago
I have never understood how pointing out another unethical policy justifies the first unethical policy It seems we as a society have lost the axiom of "2 wrongs do not make a right" as it is not just this area were I see people attempting to justify their wrongs based on the wrongs of others...
giantrobot 5y ago
> includes only very basic hosting of an application package Only basic hosting if you ignore all of the other services. You might consider the App Store's revenue share high but don't pretend the App Store is just a dumb file host.
- sofixa 5y ago
  What else do they do besides provide a payments gateway ( that they force you to use)? As seen with Android, you don't need to use the official app store to use the official SDKs and platform APIs.
  - shuckles 5y ago
    Developing 3rd party frameworks is a meaningful expense. AOSP means Google made a business decision to incur that expense and sign away rights to it, but Apple hasn't.
Brian_K_White 5y ago
And that is a bad thing.

Apple’s App Store charges much more than that for a service that includes only very basic hosting of an application package.

by pavlov 5y ago

Apple’s App Store charges much more than that for a service that includes only very basic hosting of an application package.

humanistbot 5y ago

That is also egregious, but Apple and Google are getting away with it because they have a duopoly over mobile phone app stores. Not so with video hosting.

hallway_monitor 5y ago
Isn't it so though? What viable alternatives exist?
- johnnyanmac 5y ago
  Definitely educate me, but: what is Vimeo doing for a B2B solution that Youtube can't provide? You can provide unlisted videos (and that is something a few pareon users have done). It's odd because Vimeo was most known to me for hosting art portfolios, so seeing it denounce it's "indie" status is bewildering. I assume the advantage comes from providing uncompressed videos with extremely high bitrate. Which is an admittedly extremely niche market.
- eigen 5y ago
  an alternative is Amazon Video Direct where content providers receive 50% of net revenue. seems like a worse deal than Apple & Google. https://videodirect.amazon.com/home/help?topicId=G202037410&ref_=avd_sup_G202037410 https://videodirect.amazon.com/home/help?topicId=G202037410&...

syshum 5y ago

I have never understood how pointing out another unethical policy justifies the first unethical policy It seems we as a society have lost the axiom of "2 wrongs do not make a right" as it is not just this area were I see people attempting to justify their wrongs based on the wrongs of others...

giantrobot 5y ago

> includes only very basic hosting of an application package Only basic hosting if you ignore all of the other services. You might consider the App Store's revenue share high but don't pretend the App Store is just a dumb file host.

sofixa 5y ago
What else do they do besides provide a payments gateway ( that they force you to use)? As seen with Android, you don't need to use the official app store to use the official SDKs and platform APIs.
- shuckles 5y ago
  Developing 3rd party frameworks is a meaningful expense. AOSP means Google made a business decision to incur that expense and sign away rights to it, but Apple hasn't.

Brian_K_White 5y ago

And that is a bad thing.