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What's that video supposed to be? I mean, it's just constant non-sense. For example: 1. The guy is apparently completely unaware of the laws of his home-coun

by _Nat_ 5y ago

What's that video supposed to be? I mean, it's just constant non-sense. For example: 1. The guy is apparently completely unaware of the laws of his home-country, comically confused about everything. 2. Apparently he entered the country without exchanging his money for the local-system, then is constantly confused that his money doesn't work. 3. Apparently it's highly illegal to pay other peoples' fines (why?), but instead of just declining such illegal payments, it accepts them (why?), then sets off all sorts of dramatic alarms. 4. Unpaid fines stop peoples' cars instantly, even while driving down the road. 5. The last scene shows prisoners relaxing, sipping wine from wine-glasses. Even though they're prisoners, in a country where alcohol's illegal.

forum_ghost 5y ago
how is it nonsense? everything adds up. 1. he's a visitor, who left the country years, seems like decades ago. 2. he's been away for decades? and now the country is no longer what it used to be? 3. artistic license to demonstrate a point? do you expect films to be some pedantic, step by step, black and white, logic device? It's art, and like life itself, it's not always logical. Fraudulent payments go through as well in real life, but clearly they shouldn't, because they are illegal? Perhaps some citizens are exempt from this rule, and so they allow payments, but punish those not allowed to pay? Perhaps there are many other reasons for it, say, why decline it, instead of taking that money, and fining the other person, that way the "criminal" has less money to begin with, and perhaps that was found to be the more effective punishment? 4. tesla can park itself, why can't it park itself automatically once you are found no longer fit to drive in transit? 5. they are "free". in a "prison". are they free in their "home? is there a difference? It really is the point of the entire short. what it supposed to be? it's an award winning short. a little more from director himself, on what this is: https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/03/13/utopia-youtube/ https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/03/13/utopia-youtube/
- _Nat_ 5y ago
  A good argument against X might try to show probable -- or, failing that, plausible -- consequences of X. But that video's too much like, "If they pass this law I don't like, aliens will invade, earthquakes will shake, and volcanos will erupt!". If you want to make a real point that people care about, it has to make sense. You can't just make up non-sense, cite "artistic license", and expect people to believe it.

by _Nat_ 5y ago

forum_ghost 5y ago

how is it nonsense? everything adds up. 1. he's a visitor, who left the country years, seems like decades ago. 2. he's been away for decades? and now the country is no longer what it used to be? 3. artistic license to demonstrate a point? do you expect films to be some pedantic, step by step, black and white, logic device? It's art, and like life itself, it's not always logical. Fraudulent payments go through as well in real life, but clearly they shouldn't, because they are illegal? Perhaps some citizens are exempt from this rule, and so they allow payments, but punish those not allowed to pay? Perhaps there are many other reasons for it, say, why decline it, instead of taking that money, and fining the other person, that way the "criminal" has less money to begin with, and perhaps that was found to be the more effective punishment? 4. tesla can park itself, why can't it park itself automatically once you are found no longer fit to drive in transit? 5. they are "free". in a "prison". are they free in their "home? is there a difference? It really is the point of the entire short. what it supposed to be? it's an award winning short. a little more from director himself, on what this is: https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/03/13/utopia-youtube/ https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/03/13/utopia-youtube/

_Nat_ 5y ago
A good argument against X might try to show probable -- or, failing that, plausible -- consequences of X. But that video's too much like, "If they pass this law I don't like, aliens will invade, earthquakes will shake, and volcanos will erupt!". If you want to make a real point that people care about, it has to make sense. You can't just make up non-sense, cite "artistic license", and expect people to believe it.