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He's OK. I don't know how to link a tweet but see textfiles account(https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles) Mark Pilgrim is alive/an

by samuel 15y ago

He's OK. I don't know how to link a tweet but see textfiles account(https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles) Mark Pilgrim is alive/annoyed we called the police. Please stand down and give the man privacy and space, and thanks everyone for caring. ... The communication was specifically verified, it was him, and that's that. That was the single hardest decision I've had to make this year.

joahua 15y ago
https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 (clicking on "x minutes ago" does it)
- jonathantneal 15y ago
  http://diveintohtml5.info/ http://diveintohtml5.info/
jerrya 15y ago
Mark is annoyed? How about Mark is goddamn lucky and should be both embarrassed and grateful that he's enough of a character that a chunk of the internet cares about him. Mark is annoyed? It is Mark Pilgrim's right to disappear, but to disappear in a puff of greasy black smoke and 4̶0̶4̶s̶ 410s is just attention whoring and begging people to look for him and call the police. There is no reason for Mark to be annoyed that some caring people looked for him. There is every reason for him to count his blessings. I sincerely wish him the best and hope he recovers from whatever ails him, but please don't tell me how annoyed he is.
- deleted 15y ago
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- mathias 15y ago
  > 410s FTFY.
- saurik 15y ago
  He probably/hopefully/certainly also has friends and family that he interacts with on a day-to-day basis that, were he to actually-really-really disappear, would care about him and call the police. It is frankly kind of creepy/scary that a bunch of people he barely knows think it is their place to /call the police/ if he gets sick of the weird kind of attention you get from that kind of audience (and frankly reinforces the behavior of wanting to "go 410").
  - msbarnett 15y ago
    Jason Scott, the guy whose twitter account that is and the guy who called the police, evidently knows Mark Pilgrim well enough to verify that he was talking to Mark because they were discussing a matter "only the two of them knew about". That doesn't sound like "creepy Internet people Mark barely knows" to me.
    - saurik 15y ago
      Firstly, let me point out that I am responding to jerrya, not Jason Scott (whom I have also interacted with on a few occasions, and is a friend-of-a-friend enough that when I heard about this mess I turned to someone else in the room and asked them about what was up). "Mark is goddamn lucky and should be both embarrassed and grateful that he's enough of a character that a chunk of the internet cares about him" I believe that statement belies a general mentality that I run into constantly: I myself have "disappeared" a few times, for less than 72 hours, because I decided to "take a weekend off" (attending a concert, for example), and I /did not appreciate/ that a ton of people on Twitter seemed to think that meant that I had "died", and insinuated calling the police to find me. Regardless, to respond now to your comment regarding Jason: they apparently aren't close enough for Jason to a) call Mark directly, b) call someone in Mark's family, c) call any of Mark's friends, or d) have any clue what happened to Mark other than to "[call] his local PD for a welfare check", which to me indicates they aren't really close at all. Seriously: having something "only the two of them knew about" isn't actually that rare: I've only talked with the man (Jason) a couple times, and yet I bet I could pass that test as well.
      - 15y ago
- kenferry 15y ago
  This doesn't make sense to me. Is there any example of a way Mark could have not been okay in a way that is helped by people on the internet tracking him down? Clearly his material was intentionally taken down.. short of "silenced by the gubbermint", I'm not sure how tracking him down could help. It seems more like voyeurism..
  - bane 15y ago
    Yes, this behavior is a typical pattern of people suffering from long-term depression who are entering a final stage before suicide. Of the typical signs: a sudden change in behavior, loss of interest in favored activities, setting affairs in order, withdrawing from others, self destructive behavior. You wouldn't believe the number of suicides who, as their last and final act, cleaned up (shaved, got a hair cut, put on a suit or nice dress, put on makeup, etc.) and prior to that suddenly gave away all of their stuff particularly prized possessions (and for creative types, their lifetime collection of work).
- 21231651 15y ago
  It is Mark Pilgrim's right to disappear, but to disappear in a puff of greasy black smoke and 4̶0̶4̶s̶ 410s is just attention whoring and begging people to look for him and call the police. Come on. If I could, I would downvote you to hell. Seriously? You think nobody has a right to delete stuff they put there? They do not have the choice to lose interest in one thing and considering that maintaining it is a liability "take care of it" the old fashioned way? How can you be annoyed that a guy is annoyed that people sent a police car in front of his house. That is just the most ridiculous thing I heard since this morning.
  - jerrya 15y ago
    Mark has every right to disappear, I said so. And Mark has every right to delete all of his stuff. Sure. And Mark has every right to delete all of his stuff, stuff that has been widely linked to, stuff heralded as brilliant, and he has the right to delete all of his accounts, but what he has no right to do when he does that and leaves no explanation, is to be annoyed that people wonder what happened to him? This is an age passed the kids' faces on milk boxes. We have google that puts up a infobox for suicide prevention if you search for suicide. We have amber alerts. We have diggs/reddits/farks starting searches for missing people. We have had several famous net suicides including one in January 2011, where a woman posted her suicide intention, people read it, no one took her seriously, and she went through with it. Needless to say all of her Facebook friends were heavily criticized in the following days. We have a zillion different ways to connect in an age that stresses how wonderful the socially connected internet is, and Mark goes off and deletes all of his stuff and his accounts with no explanation whatsoever, And he's annoyed that people notice and take action? If he wants to delete his stuff, fine. Leave a nice page up saying he is fine but for reason X he is taking down his material for awhile. Wish everyone well, and thank them for their concern. And he's clearly smart enough to understand that.
    - 21231651 15y ago
      Why would he explain it to anybody, I didn't know him or his work, but by god if he wants to disappear he disappears. Also he posted no suicidal tendencies as far as I gather, he posted nothing stating he is suicidal or even sad. Maybe just bored, but definitely not sad. Why would he explain his actions to everyone. Who are you to demand an explanation? Did you contribute to his work in any way? Do you hold stake or shares in his work? Did you invest in him or his work? You didn't. One can say that he was a public figure and public made him. Big deal! Did he practically rallied to become famous? No. Did he have ad campaigns? No. Did he actively marketed his work? No. He just posted his good work and was happy that people used it in whatever way. But then he gets bored and says "I am out". Giving up a hobby should not result in a immediate police welfare call. What did people notice? That his public side is gone? So they immediately assumed that he is dead? That looks like a leap of faith. There were other ways to reach him than police. They could have found out who knew him and told those people to make contact. Police calls are drastic actions and an embarrassment.

by samuel 15y ago

joahua 15y ago

https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/121436177298493440 (clicking on "x minutes ago" does it)

jonathantneal 15y ago
http://diveintohtml5.info/ http://diveintohtml5.info/

jerrya 15y ago

Mark is annoyed? How about Mark is goddamn lucky and should be both embarrassed and grateful that he's enough of a character that a chunk of the internet cares about him. Mark is annoyed? It is Mark Pilgrim's right to disappear, but to disappear in a puff of greasy black smoke and 4̶0̶4̶s̶ 410s is just attention whoring and begging people to look for him and call the police. There is no reason for Mark to be annoyed that some caring people looked for him. There is every reason for him to count his blessings. I sincerely wish him the best and hope he recovers from whatever ails him, but please don't tell me how annoyed he is.

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mathias 15y ago
> 410s FTFY.
saurik 15y ago
He probably/hopefully/certainly also has friends and family that he interacts with on a day-to-day basis that, were he to actually-really-really disappear, would care about him and call the police. It is frankly kind of creepy/scary that a bunch of people he barely knows think it is their place to /call the police/ if he gets sick of the weird kind of attention you get from that kind of audience (and frankly reinforces the behavior of wanting to "go 410").
- msbarnett 15y ago
  Jason Scott, the guy whose twitter account that is and the guy who called the police, evidently knows Mark Pilgrim well enough to verify that he was talking to Mark because they were discussing a matter "only the two of them knew about". That doesn't sound like "creepy Internet people Mark barely knows" to me.
  - saurik 15y ago
    Firstly, let me point out that I am responding to jerrya, not Jason Scott (whom I have also interacted with on a few occasions, and is a friend-of-a-friend enough that when I heard about this mess I turned to someone else in the room and asked them about what was up). "Mark is goddamn lucky and should be both embarrassed and grateful that he's enough of a character that a chunk of the internet cares about him" I believe that statement belies a general mentality that I run into constantly: I myself have "disappeared" a few times, for less than 72 hours, because I decided to "take a weekend off" (attending a concert, for example), and I /did not appreciate/ that a ton of people on Twitter seemed to think that meant that I had "died", and insinuated calling the police to find me. Regardless, to respond now to your comment regarding Jason: they apparently aren't close enough for Jason to a) call Mark directly, b) call someone in Mark's family, c) call any of Mark's friends, or d) have any clue what happened to Mark other than to "[call] his local PD for a welfare check", which to me indicates they aren't really close at all. Seriously: having something "only the two of them knew about" isn't actually that rare: I've only talked with the man (Jason) a couple times, and yet I bet I could pass that test as well.
    - 15y ago
kenferry 15y ago
This doesn't make sense to me. Is there any example of a way Mark could have not been okay in a way that is helped by people on the internet tracking him down? Clearly his material was intentionally taken down.. short of "silenced by the gubbermint", I'm not sure how tracking him down could help. It seems more like voyeurism..
- bane 15y ago
  Yes, this behavior is a typical pattern of people suffering from long-term depression who are entering a final stage before suicide. Of the typical signs: a sudden change in behavior, loss of interest in favored activities, setting affairs in order, withdrawing from others, self destructive behavior. You wouldn't believe the number of suicides who, as their last and final act, cleaned up (shaved, got a hair cut, put on a suit or nice dress, put on makeup, etc.) and prior to that suddenly gave away all of their stuff particularly prized possessions (and for creative types, their lifetime collection of work).
21231651 15y ago
It is Mark Pilgrim's right to disappear, but to disappear in a puff of greasy black smoke and 4̶0̶4̶s̶ 410s is just attention whoring and begging people to look for him and call the police. Come on. If I could, I would downvote you to hell. Seriously? You think nobody has a right to delete stuff they put there? They do not have the choice to lose interest in one thing and considering that maintaining it is a liability "take care of it" the old fashioned way? How can you be annoyed that a guy is annoyed that people sent a police car in front of his house. That is just the most ridiculous thing I heard since this morning.
- jerrya 15y ago
  Mark has every right to disappear, I said so. And Mark has every right to delete all of his stuff. Sure. And Mark has every right to delete all of his stuff, stuff that has been widely linked to, stuff heralded as brilliant, and he has the right to delete all of his accounts, but what he has no right to do when he does that and leaves no explanation, is to be annoyed that people wonder what happened to him? This is an age passed the kids' faces on milk boxes. We have google that puts up a infobox for suicide prevention if you search for suicide. We have amber alerts. We have diggs/reddits/farks starting searches for missing people. We have had several famous net suicides including one in January 2011, where a woman posted her suicide intention, people read it, no one took her seriously, and she went through with it. Needless to say all of her Facebook friends were heavily criticized in the following days. We have a zillion different ways to connect in an age that stresses how wonderful the socially connected internet is, and Mark goes off and deletes all of his stuff and his accounts with no explanation whatsoever, And he's annoyed that people notice and take action? If he wants to delete his stuff, fine. Leave a nice page up saying he is fine but for reason X he is taking down his material for awhile. Wish everyone well, and thank them for their concern. And he's clearly smart enough to understand that.
  - 21231651 15y ago
    Why would he explain it to anybody, I didn't know him or his work, but by god if he wants to disappear he disappears. Also he posted no suicidal tendencies as far as I gather, he posted nothing stating he is suicidal or even sad. Maybe just bored, but definitely not sad. Why would he explain his actions to everyone. Who are you to demand an explanation? Did you contribute to his work in any way? Do you hold stake or shares in his work? Did you invest in him or his work? You didn't. One can say that he was a public figure and public made him. Big deal! Did he practically rallied to become famous? No. Did he have ad campaigns? No. Did he actively marketed his work? No. He just posted his good work and was happy that people used it in whatever way. But then he gets bored and says "I am out". Giving up a hobby should not result in a immediate police welfare call. What did people notice? That his public side is gone? So they immediately assumed that he is dead? That looks like a leap of faith. There were other ways to reach him than police. They could have found out who knew him and told those people to make contact. Police calls are drastic actions and an embarrassment.