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I'm not in Van but have no idea how anyone affords living there without foreign income. $2 gas, real estate as Chinese poker chips, highway robbery fed tax, nam

I'm not in Van but have no idea how anyone affords living there without foreign income. $2 gas, real estate as Chinese poker chips, highway robbery fed tax, name it.

dsq 5y ago
Is that 2 dollars per liter? Otherwise 2 per gallon is a steal nowadays...
- chongli 5y ago
  Yes, gas in Canada is sold per litre.
  - kkfx 5y ago
    Here in France is 2.$something EUR per liter (~2.79 CAD) so...
    - seabrookmx 5y ago
      Honest question, is it common to commute by car in France? I know in and around Paris your train and metro infrastructure are great, but what about in rural areas? The reason $2/litre gas is so bad here is because commuting by car is so common for the working Canadian. Canadians average over 15000km per year. I think it's a combination of our geography as well as our US-like obsession with low tax rates preventing us from investing in rail etc.
      - kkfx 5y ago
        > is it common to commute by car in France? Outside few big cities yes, not for the mean mileage of USA (and Canada?) suburbs, but range from 60-120km/day (37-75 miles) round-trip total are fairly common, public transports outside big and mean city do exists but it's not much used nor have a significant cover, it's almost limited to service schools and few elderly or tourism in specific areas. Rails in the past was significantly developed but nowadays are developed only between few areas for expensive high-speed trains or commercial freight. See http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg just as "big picture" example. Even hi-speed trains (like TGV) lower their speed because rails upkeep for real hi-speed is too costly... Roads on contrary, with a certain variability, tend to be well maintained and designed well enough to commute at human speed and many have more than one car, most still live outside cities (in the sense of European dense cities) to have individual homes. Salaries vary but I think they are close respect of overall cost of living to Canada... Indeed the Gilet Jaunes movement born against the first round of gas price hikes few years ago (just taxes), and now even if covid + Ukrainian war have MUCH silenced anything protests step up again essential for the same inflationary/economical reasons.
        TMWNN 5y ago
        >even if covid + Ukrainian war have MUCH silenced anything protests step up again essential for the same inflationary/economical reasons. Protests in Spain despite those factors. <https://www.thelocal.es/20220320/thousands-protest-over-soaring-prices-across-spain/ https://www.thelocal.es/20220320/thousands-protest-over-soar...>
- odonnellryan 5y ago
  Yeah roughly $6 a gallon after currency conversion.
nixass 5y ago
So like most of western europe you say?
- brailsafe 5y ago
  Does Western Europe have insanely high housing costs?
  - deleted 5y ago
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I'm not in Van but have no idea how anyone affords living there without foreign income. $2 gas, real estate as Chinese poker chips, highway robbery fed tax, name it.

dsq 5y ago

Is that 2 dollars per liter? Otherwise 2 per gallon is a steal nowadays...

chongli 5y ago
Yes, gas in Canada is sold per litre.
- kkfx 5y ago
  Here in France is 2.$something EUR per liter (~2.79 CAD) so...
  - seabrookmx 5y ago
    Honest question, is it common to commute by car in France? I know in and around Paris your train and metro infrastructure are great, but what about in rural areas? The reason $2/litre gas is so bad here is because commuting by car is so common for the working Canadian. Canadians average over 15000km per year. I think it's a combination of our geography as well as our US-like obsession with low tax rates preventing us from investing in rail etc.
    - kkfx 5y ago
      > is it common to commute by car in France? Outside few big cities yes, not for the mean mileage of USA (and Canada?) suburbs, but range from 60-120km/day (37-75 miles) round-trip total are fairly common, public transports outside big and mean city do exists but it's not much used nor have a significant cover, it's almost limited to service schools and few elderly or tourism in specific areas. Rails in the past was significantly developed but nowadays are developed only between few areas for expensive high-speed trains or commercial freight. See http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg just as "big picture" example. Even hi-speed trains (like TGV) lower their speed because rails upkeep for real hi-speed is too costly... Roads on contrary, with a certain variability, tend to be well maintained and designed well enough to commute at human speed and many have more than one car, most still live outside cities (in the sense of European dense cities) to have individual homes. Salaries vary but I think they are close respect of overall cost of living to Canada... Indeed the Gilet Jaunes movement born against the first round of gas price hikes few years ago (just taxes), and now even if covid + Ukrainian war have MUCH silenced anything protests step up again essential for the same inflationary/economical reasons.
      - TMWNN 5y ago
        >even if covid + Ukrainian war have MUCH silenced anything protests step up again essential for the same inflationary/economical reasons. Protests in Spain despite those factors. <https://www.thelocal.es/20220320/thousands-protest-over-soaring-prices-across-spain/ https://www.thelocal.es/20220320/thousands-protest-over-soar...>
odonnellryan 5y ago
Yeah roughly $6 a gallon after currency conversion.

nixass 5y ago

So like most of western europe you say?

brailsafe 5y ago
Does Western Europe have insanely high housing costs?
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