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Companionship and undying loyalty. They are fun to have around.

teakettle42 5y ago
It’s undying physical and emotional dependence, not loyalty. That said, maybe that’s fun for you; everyone has their own preferences.
- thih9 5y ago
  This comment seems needlessly condescending. It looks like the concept of dog ownership is making you worried or puzzled? In the past I also didn’t get dog ownership and now it makes sense to me, if that helps. I’m not saying that it should make sense to you (see also my earlier comment [1]). [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30741072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30741072
  - teakettle42 5y ago
    I think the relationship is itself pathological, and it’s burdensome to the rest of us that have to deal with modern codependent dog owners bringing their ill-behaved pet everywhere.
    - srean 5y ago
      As opposed to a cohort of self-centered, relationship handicapped, intolerant jerks prone to narrow mindedness and rude rants on discussion forums and elsewhere, I know which one I would prefer to have for a harmonious society and whom I find more offensive.
      - teakettle42 5y ago
        > self-centered, relationship handicapped, intolerant jerks prone to narrow mindedness and rude rants on discussion forums and elsewhere You could easily be describing the dog owners here who were just confronted with the fact that their emotional codependency with a dirty animal — and tendency to replace healthy human relationships, foisting their pet onto others in public, at restaurants, on trails, et al — is not, in fact, a behavior subject to universal acclaim.
        thih9 5y ago
        I agree about causing actual inconvenience in public places, this shouldn't happen. But why are you bothered by the fact that some people are emotionally codependent with a dirty animal? I think you should either let people and dogs enjoy each other; or show some actual proof that the human-dog relationship is harmful; but many sources say otherwise [1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–canine_bond#Benefits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–canine_bond#Benefits
    - maccard 5y ago
      > it’s burdensome to the rest of us that have to deal with modern codependent dog owners bringing their ill-behaved pet everywhere. I have had _far_ more issues with people bringing their ill behaved friends/children/parents places than I have with pets. If you go out to a café for lunch, it's acceptable to leave children run around because that's what kids do, but dogs are almost always kept quietly under the table out of the way. It's common for people to blast crappy music on the beach that everyone else around them has to listen to, or for them to leave rubbish behind them, yet it's expected (rightly so) that I pick up after my dog and keep her out of the way of other people on the beach.
    - thih9 5y ago
      The bit about pathological relationship seems very subjective. I'm guessing you've had bad experiences with dog owners or pets. Obviously the human-dog relationship should be good for all parties involved. I agree about ill-behaving pets; a lot of people should take better care of their dogs. E.g. invest more in socialising, avoid places where the dog is uncomfortable, etc.

It’s undying physical and emotional dependence, not loyalty. That said, maybe that’s fun for you; everyone has their own preferences.

thih9 5y ago
This comment seems needlessly condescending. It looks like the concept of dog ownership is making you worried or puzzled? In the past I also didn’t get dog ownership and now it makes sense to me, if that helps. I’m not saying that it should make sense to you (see also my earlier comment [1]). [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30741072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30741072
- teakettle42 5y ago
  I think the relationship is itself pathological, and it’s burdensome to the rest of us that have to deal with modern codependent dog owners bringing their ill-behaved pet everywhere.
  - srean 5y ago
    As opposed to a cohort of self-centered, relationship handicapped, intolerant jerks prone to narrow mindedness and rude rants on discussion forums and elsewhere, I know which one I would prefer to have for a harmonious society and whom I find more offensive.
    - teakettle42 5y ago
      > self-centered, relationship handicapped, intolerant jerks prone to narrow mindedness and rude rants on discussion forums and elsewhere You could easily be describing the dog owners here who were just confronted with the fact that their emotional codependency with a dirty animal — and tendency to replace healthy human relationships, foisting their pet onto others in public, at restaurants, on trails, et al — is not, in fact, a behavior subject to universal acclaim.
      - thih9 5y ago
        I agree about causing actual inconvenience in public places, this shouldn't happen. But why are you bothered by the fact that some people are emotionally codependent with a dirty animal? I think you should either let people and dogs enjoy each other; or show some actual proof that the human-dog relationship is harmful; but many sources say otherwise [1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–canine_bond#Benefits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human–canine_bond#Benefits
  - maccard 5y ago
    > it’s burdensome to the rest of us that have to deal with modern codependent dog owners bringing their ill-behaved pet everywhere. I have had _far_ more issues with people bringing their ill behaved friends/children/parents places than I have with pets. If you go out to a café for lunch, it's acceptable to leave children run around because that's what kids do, but dogs are almost always kept quietly under the table out of the way. It's common for people to blast crappy music on the beach that everyone else around them has to listen to, or for them to leave rubbish behind them, yet it's expected (rightly so) that I pick up after my dog and keep her out of the way of other people on the beach.
  - thih9 5y ago
    The bit about pathological relationship seems very subjective. I'm guessing you've had bad experiences with dog owners or pets. Obviously the human-dog relationship should be good for all parties involved. I agree about ill-behaving pets; a lot of people should take better care of their dogs. E.g. invest more in socialising, avoid places where the dog is uncomfortable, etc.