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by this logic, do you feel entitled to bother dozens of people with your commentary? we're all entitled to freedom under the law, and some people depend on car

by this logic, do you feel entitled to bother dozens of people with your commentary? we're all entitled to freedom under the law, and some people depend on cars to make a living. I say this is a car-less NYC resident, bounty hunting culture is dumb.

morsch 5y ago
You can easily choose not to read his post, people can't easily choose not to breathe the air where they live. Well, some people can, they can get a car and move. People are entitled to freedom under the law, but society is free to enact laws that make idling illegal, even if it means some people's vehicles won't start in winter, or restrict vehicle traffic on certain urban streets, whether this pertains to 18-wheelers or a regular handymans truck. Though I'm sure some people will claim there is a constitutional right to getting everywhere by car, and so society is actually not free to do that. Either way, I doubt there will be significant change. Car culture has a vice-like grip on society, there is no path whatsoever out of this particular local maximum. There may be gestures towards coexistence with other modes of transportation, but never at a significant cost to cars. And that just isn't enough.
- disambiguation 5y ago
  idling is already illegal and calling the police is free state sponsored snitching is dumb
sdoering 5y ago
Wow. So you feel it comparable to pollute a neighborhood with health adverse fumes to receiving commentary about such behavior? What you are talking about is not freedom. It is the opposite. It is egoism. You want to do as you please without (negativ) consequences for your actions. Your freedom ends when it impairs the freedom of others. In this case the freedom not to be poisoned by your car's unnecessary (that is the important distinction here) exhaust fumes. But yeah. Go on denigrating others by calling them entitled.
- disambiguation 5y ago
  woosh

morsch 5y ago

You can easily choose not to read his post, people can't easily choose not to breathe the air where they live. Well, some people can, they can get a car and move. People are entitled to freedom under the law, but society is free to enact laws that make idling illegal, even if it means some people's vehicles won't start in winter, or restrict vehicle traffic on certain urban streets, whether this pertains to 18-wheelers or a regular handymans truck. Though I'm sure some people will claim there is a constitutional right to getting everywhere by car, and so society is actually not free to do that. Either way, I doubt there will be significant change. Car culture has a vice-like grip on society, there is no path whatsoever out of this particular local maximum. There may be gestures towards coexistence with other modes of transportation, but never at a significant cost to cars. And that just isn't enough.

disambiguation 5y ago
idling is already illegal and calling the police is free state sponsored snitching is dumb

sdoering 5y ago

Wow. So you feel it comparable to pollute a neighborhood with health adverse fumes to receiving commentary about such behavior? What you are talking about is not freedom. It is the opposite. It is egoism. You want to do as you please without (negativ) consequences for your actions. Your freedom ends when it impairs the freedom of others. In this case the freedom not to be poisoned by your car's unnecessary (that is the important distinction here) exhaust fumes. But yeah. Go on denigrating others by calling them entitled.

disambiguation 5y ago
woosh