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>"This is a scene from the city’s benign-sounding but often raucous Citizens Air Complaint Program, a public health campaign that invites — and pays — people to
by FpUser 5y ago
>"This is a scene from the city’s benign-sounding but often raucous Citizens Air Complaint Program, a public health campaign that invites — and pays — people to report trucks that are parked and idling for more than three minutes, or one minute if outside a school. Those who report collect 25 percent of any fine against a truck by submitting a video just over 3 minutes in length that shows the engine is running and the name of the company on the door"
The idea of people ratting on each other like this somehow does not inspire me. Doing it for free in egregious cases is ok in my book but the former in my view just plainly sucks.
- ip26 5y agoHow do you feel about whistleblower compensation from the SEC?
- FpUser 5y agoNot sure. I mean I am all for whistleblowing. Have no strong opinion about compensation in this manner. Ratting on people is different. Sure if I see an actual crime (or at least what constitute one in my eyes) I'll report. But report for example my neighbor for building "illegal" shed - I think it'll hurt my inner integrity too much.
- woodruffw 5y agoTo be clear: SEC "whistleblowers" are rats in the colloquial sense: they come from inside the companies themselves, and report malfeasance to the SEC in exchange for a cut of the penalties. Similar, what we're talking about is an actual crime in NYC. It's illegal, full stop, to idle a commercial vehicle for more than 3 minutes. You might not want that to be the law, but that's a very difference stance vs. "it's not an actual crime."
- FpUser 5y ago>"To be clear: SEC "whistleblowers" are rats in the colloquial sense: they come from inside the companies themselves, and report malfeasance to the SEC in exchange for a cut of the penalties." Put it this way. I'll deal with it when I see it. For now this is too abstract for me. In any ways if they only do it because they get rat money I am not very fond of it. >"Similar, what we're talking about is an actual crime in NYC" And it is a crime to be gay in Barbados. So fucking what? If I was in jury I would go for nullification right away and fuck this law. I have my own moral compass and am trying to follow it in how I perceive other humans.
- kyawzazaw 5y agoWhat do you think about reporting people who don't shovel/clear the part of sidewalks?
- mjmahone17 5y agoIn NY illegal idling is an actual crime (at least in a lot of people’s eyes). It’s a violation of the commons by outsiders who are transient, so aren’t affected by the pollution they’re causing. I am greatly in favor of allowing people to be rewarded for preserving the commons, whether that’s by helping police figure out who committed a felony, or by gathering evidence of ongoing traffic violations.
- woodruffw 5y agoThere is no "ratting on each other." The people driving these trucks aren't personally liable; it's the companies they work for that are fined. All things considered, this is about the best possible application of law enforcement: it's nonviolent, nonconfrontational, directly improves quality of life within the city, and pays everyone involved (including the city itself.)
- sidewndr46 5y agoYeah, because the owners of those business totally do not pass on the fines to the employees. That never happens, ever.
- woodruffw 5y agoAm I to understand that the city should subvert its own laws because some owners have no scruples? If this proves to be an issue and not just a speculative problem, then let's empower drivers to report owners for malfeasance. Until then, I'm content to treat it as the hypothetical it is.
- skinnymuch 5y agoThe reply did not say or even imply anything you wrote like your first question. They only corrected the simplified/omitted info regarding avg employees and not suffering from fines