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Further down it mentions that “20 or so” people submit 85% of complaints

by legobmw99 5y ago

ceejayoz 5y ago
I suspect that’s about to jump up.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  The article also says the city does not make getting the payout easy and it requires many hours of follow up to maybe get paid.
  - wpietri 5y ago
    I look forward to some startup automating the steps and taking a slice.
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    - notreallyserio 5y ago
      "It's like Uber but for tattling!" I kid, I'm down for this sort of citizen engagement when it comes to externalities.
      - kingcharles 5y ago
        We can call it: https://www.tatler.com/ https://www.tatler.com/
        pawelmurias 5y ago
        stich.es?
        black_puppydog 5y ago
        Thanks for this look into a bizarro world. :)
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      - allisdust 5y ago
        You mean snitch.ai.of course. Get your own personalised snitches to avoid stitches.
      - FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
        It's like the Texas approach to abortion. The whole thing just doesn't feel right. I don't care if, in this particular case, the cause is not-terrible (preventing pollution). There's just something "off" about the enforcement mechanism. Serious crimes? Sure: Do your civic duty; call the police. But this? Mind your own business. It feels vaguely East-German.
        wpietri 5y ago
        Not to me. East German reporting was about controlling the citizenry to support the regime in power. This is about protecting the health and comfort of one's neighbors and oneself. That is very much my business.
        notreallyserio 5y ago
        The Texas approach is quite different -- it encourages people to sue other people with completely artificial standing. In fact the Texas approach was designed to be entirely different from a government run bounty program in an attempt to undermine the constitution. This is more similar to whistleblower laws that pay a bounty for taxes recovered by the IRS. In both cases the government is the one taking the action that fines the perp. In any case, pollution is my business.
        tekknik 5y ago
        I’m Texas’ approach the gov is not involved in taking any action. That’s why the law can stand as there is no gov office enforcing it. In both cases it pits citizens again citizens, which is what’s starting to feel creepy.
    - gnicholas 5y ago
      Sounds right up the alley of www.donotpay.com Or maybe they would be on the other side, helping truck drivers fight the tickets? Heck, they're VC-funded. They'll probably be on both sides! Think of it as the new "two-sided marketplace".
    - julianlam 5y ago
      Maybe HN could no-code it. Find some NYC public camera feeds, pipe it to an ML algo to detect cars with vapour coming out of the exhaust, record and send off for $$.
- hackernewds 5y ago
  This is why labor markets are so tight /s

Further down it mentions that “20 or so” people submit 85% of complaints

ceejayoz 5y ago

I suspect that’s about to jump up.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
The article also says the city does not make getting the payout easy and it requires many hours of follow up to maybe get paid.
- wpietri 5y ago
  I look forward to some startup automating the steps and taking a slice.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - notreallyserio 5y ago
    "It's like Uber but for tattling!" I kid, I'm down for this sort of citizen engagement when it comes to externalities.
    - kingcharles 5y ago
      We can call it: https://www.tatler.com/ https://www.tatler.com/
      - pawelmurias 5y ago
        stich.es?
      - black_puppydog 5y ago
        Thanks for this look into a bizarro world. :)
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
    - allisdust 5y ago
      You mean snitch.ai.of course. Get your own personalised snitches to avoid stitches.
    - FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
      It's like the Texas approach to abortion. The whole thing just doesn't feel right. I don't care if, in this particular case, the cause is not-terrible (preventing pollution). There's just something "off" about the enforcement mechanism. Serious crimes? Sure: Do your civic duty; call the police. But this? Mind your own business. It feels vaguely East-German.
      - wpietri 5y ago
        Not to me. East German reporting was about controlling the citizenry to support the regime in power. This is about protecting the health and comfort of one's neighbors and oneself. That is very much my business.
      - notreallyserio 5y ago
        The Texas approach is quite different -- it encourages people to sue other people with completely artificial standing. In fact the Texas approach was designed to be entirely different from a government run bounty program in an attempt to undermine the constitution. This is more similar to whistleblower laws that pay a bounty for taxes recovered by the IRS. In both cases the government is the one taking the action that fines the perp. In any case, pollution is my business.
        tekknik 5y ago
        I’m Texas’ approach the gov is not involved in taking any action. That’s why the law can stand as there is no gov office enforcing it. In both cases it pits citizens again citizens, which is what’s starting to feel creepy.
  - gnicholas 5y ago
    Sounds right up the alley of www.donotpay.com Or maybe they would be on the other side, helping truck drivers fight the tickets? Heck, they're VC-funded. They'll probably be on both sides! Think of it as the new "two-sided marketplace".
  - julianlam 5y ago
    Maybe HN could no-code it. Find some NYC public camera feeds, pipe it to an ML algo to detect cars with vapour coming out of the exhaust, record and send off for $$.
hackernewds 5y ago
This is why labor markets are so tight /s